Comments on: Demented Religion http://www.toqonline.com/blog/demented-religion/ Western Perspectives on Man, Culture, and Politics Fri, 27 Jan 2012 06:11:50 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Captainchaos http://www.toqonline.com/blog/demented-religion/comment-page-1/#comment-205 Captainchaos Sun, 31 May 2009 20:57:09 +0000 http://www.toqonline.com/?p=1876#comment-205 "Should both sides not take off their crosses and try to engage in constructive solutions for the future?" That would be great. But no conversation can begin until Organized Jewry accepts unreserved support for those of European descent securing the necessary conditions to sustain the collective life of their people. The best and really only refutation of Kevin MacDonald's thesis is a fundamental change in behavior. And any conversation must not have limits on it as to what conceptions of the past can be expressed. The past is dead and gone, the future is All. What future is that? “Should both sides not take off their crosses and try to engage in constructive solutions for the future?”

That would be great. But no conversation can begin until Organized Jewry accepts unreserved support for those of European descent securing the necessary conditions to sustain the collective life of their people. The best and really only refutation of Kevin MacDonald’s thesis is a fundamental change in behavior. And any conversation must not have limits on it as to what conceptions of the past can be expressed. The past is dead and gone, the future is All. What future is that?

]]> By: Benjamin http://www.toqonline.com/blog/demented-religion/comment-page-1/#comment-189 Benjamin Thu, 28 May 2009 04:25:38 +0000 http://www.toqonline.com/?p=1876#comment-189 As a Jew, I do in fact agree that "Shoah-worship" has replaced real Jewish religion for many people. However, I would ask right-thinking whites to refrain from substituting their own victimology. To wit: "Jews effectively substitute for Christ (a semi-divine god-race sacrificed in a holocaust), while Hitler is Satan" is replaced by "Whites effectively substitute for Christ (a semi-divine god-race sacrificed in the fire of multiculturalism), while the Jew is Satan" Should <i>both</i> sides not take off their crosses and try to engage in constructive solutions for the future? As a Jew, I do in fact agree that “Shoah-worship” has replaced real Jewish religion for many people. However, I would ask right-thinking whites to refrain from substituting their own victimology. To wit:

“Jews effectively substitute for Christ (a semi-divine god-race sacrificed in a holocaust), while Hitler is Satan”

is replaced by

“Whites effectively substitute for Christ (a semi-divine god-race sacrificed in the fire of multiculturalism), while the Jew is Satan”

Should both sides not take off their crosses and try to engage in constructive solutions for the future?

]]> By: Jean West http://www.toqonline.com/blog/demented-religion/comment-page-1/#comment-168 Jean West Sun, 24 May 2009 20:10:11 +0000 http://www.toqonline.com/?p=1876#comment-168 It’s true, America’s mindset and popular culture are saturated with this religion you describe. Here’s mention of it toward the end of a report about German political activist Welf Herfurth (<a href="http://newrightausnz.blogspot.com/2007/08/welf-herfurth-against-reductio-ad.html" rel="nofollow">http://newrightausnz.blogspot.com/2007/08/welf-herfurth-against-reductio-ad.html</a>): Germany, these days, cannot be patriotic, because the entire world — and the German establishment itself — focuses on one tiny portion of Germany history (the period from 1933 to 1945). Sixty years on, Hollywood and the Western mass media are still waging war on Germany (where would Hollywood be without German National Socialism?). In this regard, Welf found a new book called <em>The Hitler Club</em>, by Gary Gumpl and Richard Kleinig (describing the wartime persecution of German-Australians by the Australian government) relevant: The Australian authorities and press were happy to peddle the fallacy which Leo Strauss (the German-born Jewish philosopher and ethicist who had studied under Martin Heidegger and is regarded as one of the intellectual pillars of the American Neoconservative movement) in 1950 called the <em>reductio ad Hitlerum</em>. It was also facetiously called the <em>argumentum ad Nazium</em>. This fallacy, said Strauss, took the form that, if Hitler or the Nazi Party supported a policy or course of action, then such policy or action must necessarily be evil. Becker was unwittingly and inextricably caught up in its clutches. (<em>The Hitler Club</em>, p. 389). <a href="http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,21869296-601,00.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,21869296-601,00.html</a><!--more--> Jean West It’s true, America’s mindset and popular culture are saturated with this religion you describe. Here’s mention of it toward the end of a report about German political activist Welf Herfurth (http://newrightausnz.blogspot.com/2007/08/welf-herfurth-against-reductio-ad.html):

Germany, these days, cannot be patriotic, because the entire world — and the German establishment itself — focuses on one tiny portion of Germany history (the period from 1933 to 1945). Sixty years on, Hollywood and the Western mass media are still waging war on Germany (where would Hollywood be without German National Socialism?). In this regard, Welf found a new book called The Hitler Club, by Gary Gumpl and Richard Kleinig (describing the wartime persecution of German-Australians by the Australian government) relevant:

The Australian authorities and press were happy to peddle the fallacy which Leo Strauss (the German-born Jewish philosopher and ethicist who had studied under Martin Heidegger and is regarded as one of the intellectual pillars of the American Neoconservative movement) in 1950 called the reductio ad Hitlerum. It was also facetiously called the argumentum ad Nazium. This fallacy, said Strauss, took the form that, if Hitler or the Nazi Party supported a policy or course of action, then such policy or action must necessarily be evil. Becker was unwittingly and inextricably caught up in its clutches. (The Hitler Club, p. 389).
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,21869296-601,00.html

Jean West

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