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		<title>By: NeoNietzsche</title>
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		<dc:creator>NeoNietzsche</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 16:14:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;...there is an etiology and a point of infection, and that, for the moment, although the infection is far advanced, it can still be successfully treated: the pathogens — liberal utopians, corrupt careerists, ethnic radicals — are known and localized,...&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

I wish that I could acquiesce in this cheerful assessment and prospect.

Unfortunately for our remnant of relatively healthy cells in the global body politic, &quot;liberalism,&quot; in numerous variants of the ideology of the historic &quot;middle class&quot;/&quot;bourgeoisie,&quot; is shot through and across the &lt;i&gt;entire&lt;/i&gt; political spectrum - Classical Liberalism/Libertarianism at the Radical Right extreme, and Marxist/Gramscian/Frankfurt &quot;Enlightenment&quot;-style modern Liberalism on the Left.  All of it coming full circle and meeting in state-withering Anarchism, the slave and criminal&#039;s delight. As Nietzsche pointed out: it&#039;s all the same - it&#039;s all Beatitudinal Christianity in various guises - it&#039;s all slave morality.

Thus, no cause for optimism here.  Slaves are understandably incapable of anything but the urgent desire for &quot;freedom,&quot; &quot;liberty,&quot; and &quot;equality&quot; - the latter delusion variously formulated from end to end of the spectrum.  From Libertarian quasi-anarchism to Marxist crypto-anarchism.

And where, even in this among many another such venues, this slavish premise is shared implicitly by the appeal to predominantly middle-class readers who are regaled with accounts of enormities that threaten their self-concerned, individualistic lives (to which they merely wish to return after restoration to the (unrealizable) &lt;i&gt;status quo ante&lt;/i&gt; of some prior, more or less remote, period), there is no hope for any but a future circumstance that is, or invites immediate repetition of, the present declension.

So - how to make masters out of slaves?  Masters with which one cannot dispense, in one variety or another - the Jew and/or the German, priest and/or noble, in archetype - since liberalism, of &lt;i&gt;whatever&lt;/i&gt; variety, leads (in the inescapable logic and history of political-economy) to a &quot;restoration&quot; of mastery - mastery presently held exclusively by the Master of the Lie, in the absence of the Master of Violence, for whom the Master of &lt;i&gt;Money&lt;/i&gt; does not stand in without indispensable support from, and eventual displacement by, the alien international Liar.

Perhaps one, in this latter-day world, cannot achieve this miraculous transformation, as is my own prognosis after many years of tolerantly investigating the various feces-projecting monkey houses on the so-called Right.  In any case, until the mind-set of such representative occupants is abandoned amidst personal catastrophe and our cause offers an explicit remedy that nevertheless affronts the premises of the previous philosophy of the victims, the alternative constant journalistic discussion of newsworthy enormities merely retards the reader by reinforcing the bourgeois-liberal tsk-tsking mind-set of the &quot;unfairness&quot; or &quot;hypocrisy&quot; of the events and a mere desire to medicate the &quot;localized&quot; infection and thus to be allowed to return to business as usual.

The suspicion is aroused, indeed, that this is the foolish intention of the purveyors of such journalism - they likewise of the middle class who have found the present dispensation one which they could more or less comfortably accommodate all life long - but for the presence of repellent minorities, whose absence they would not long enjoy, for failure to understand that their own politico-economic and cultural premises are complicit in the difficulty (as evidenced in the repeated rhetorical reference, even amongst ourselves in public, to none but the cultural (artistic/scientific) achievements of the race, as if we pathetically beg to be preserved by our masters as an endangered species and that we are otherwise defenseless for lack of political inspiration from the pertinent past).

But, again, you will say, there are none but the middle class here, in quantity.  It is we and they to whom we must speak - on our and their terms.  I say, that on their and your terms, one&#039;s cause is self-defeating, as is evidenced by its evolution from supremacism to separatism to secessionism - running away to a self-imposed outdoor concentration camp that will greatly facilitate the extermination of what&#039;s left of the &quot;race&quot; in its own pitiful Vilcabamban &quot;Reich&quot;.

So I suggest, even at the risk of isolation from the larger community, an as-yet untried public discussion/debate amongst ourselves of these perhaps very disagreeable fundamentals (as opened for discussion at &quot;superhuman&quot;) - the evident intellectual prestige of which (for other than vulgar, conventionally-bred and bigoted minds that see it as psychotic) might eventually make an impression on elements of the fashion-conscious but increasingly disillusioned Left, without whom a cause cannot advance under present circumstances.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;&#8230;there is an etiology and a point of infection, and that, for the moment, although the infection is far advanced, it can still be successfully treated: the pathogens — liberal utopians, corrupt careerists, ethnic radicals — are known and localized,&#8230;&#8221;</i></p>
<p>I wish that I could acquiesce in this cheerful assessment and prospect.</p>
<p>Unfortunately for our remnant of relatively healthy cells in the global body politic, &#8220;liberalism,&#8221; in numerous variants of the ideology of the historic &#8220;middle class&#8221;/&#8221;bourgeoisie,&#8221; is shot through and across the <i>entire</i> political spectrum &#8211; Classical Liberalism/Libertarianism at the Radical Right extreme, and Marxist/Gramscian/Frankfurt &#8220;Enlightenment&#8221;-style modern Liberalism on the Left.  All of it coming full circle and meeting in state-withering Anarchism, the slave and criminal&#8217;s delight. As Nietzsche pointed out: it&#8217;s all the same &#8211; it&#8217;s all Beatitudinal Christianity in various guises &#8211; it&#8217;s all slave morality.</p>
<p>Thus, no cause for optimism here.  Slaves are understandably incapable of anything but the urgent desire for &#8220;freedom,&#8221; &#8220;liberty,&#8221; and &#8220;equality&#8221; &#8211; the latter delusion variously formulated from end to end of the spectrum.  From Libertarian quasi-anarchism to Marxist crypto-anarchism.</p>
<p>And where, even in this among many another such venues, this slavish premise is shared implicitly by the appeal to predominantly middle-class readers who are regaled with accounts of enormities that threaten their self-concerned, individualistic lives (to which they merely wish to return after restoration to the (unrealizable) <i>status quo ante</i> of some prior, more or less remote, period), there is no hope for any but a future circumstance that is, or invites immediate repetition of, the present declension.</p>
<p>So &#8211; how to make masters out of slaves?  Masters with which one cannot dispense, in one variety or another &#8211; the Jew and/or the German, priest and/or noble, in archetype &#8211; since liberalism, of <i>whatever</i> variety, leads (in the inescapable logic and history of political-economy) to a &#8220;restoration&#8221; of mastery &#8211; mastery presently held exclusively by the Master of the Lie, in the absence of the Master of Violence, for whom the Master of <i>Money</i> does not stand in without indispensable support from, and eventual displacement by, the alien international Liar.</p>
<p>Perhaps one, in this latter-day world, cannot achieve this miraculous transformation, as is my own prognosis after many years of tolerantly investigating the various feces-projecting monkey houses on the so-called Right.  In any case, until the mind-set of such representative occupants is abandoned amidst personal catastrophe and our cause offers an explicit remedy that nevertheless affronts the premises of the previous philosophy of the victims, the alternative constant journalistic discussion of newsworthy enormities merely retards the reader by reinforcing the bourgeois-liberal tsk-tsking mind-set of the &#8220;unfairness&#8221; or &#8220;hypocrisy&#8221; of the events and a mere desire to medicate the &#8220;localized&#8221; infection and thus to be allowed to return to business as usual.</p>
<p>The suspicion is aroused, indeed, that this is the foolish intention of the purveyors of such journalism &#8211; they likewise of the middle class who have found the present dispensation one which they could more or less comfortably accommodate all life long &#8211; but for the presence of repellent minorities, whose absence they would not long enjoy, for failure to understand that their own politico-economic and cultural premises are complicit in the difficulty (as evidenced in the repeated rhetorical reference, even amongst ourselves in public, to none but the cultural (artistic/scientific) achievements of the race, as if we pathetically beg to be preserved by our masters as an endangered species and that we are otherwise defenseless for lack of political inspiration from the pertinent past).</p>
<p>But, again, you will say, there are none but the middle class here, in quantity.  It is we and they to whom we must speak &#8211; on our and their terms.  I say, that on their and your terms, one&#8217;s cause is self-defeating, as is evidenced by its evolution from supremacism to separatism to secessionism &#8211; running away to a self-imposed outdoor concentration camp that will greatly facilitate the extermination of what&#8217;s left of the &#8220;race&#8221; in its own pitiful Vilcabamban &#8220;Reich&#8221;.</p>
<p>So I suggest, even at the risk of isolation from the larger community, an as-yet untried public discussion/debate amongst ourselves of these perhaps very disagreeable fundamentals (as opened for discussion at &#8220;superhuman&#8221;) &#8211; the evident intellectual prestige of which (for other than vulgar, conventionally-bred and bigoted minds that see it as psychotic) might eventually make an impression on elements of the fashion-conscious but increasingly disillusioned Left, without whom a cause cannot advance under present circumstances.</p>
<p>NN</p>
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		<title>By: The Admiral</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Admiral</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 12:48:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Any temporary social discomfort or inconvenience arising from voicing an unconventional opinion today will never be as bad as those that will accrue from keeping the peace -- not only because they will be bad, but because they will also be permanent and irreversible.&quot;

If the negative effects of  demographic change are &quot;permanent and irreversible,&quot; then what&#039;s the point of writing? I for one do not believe our situation is irreversible, but that reversing will require a course of action that is so horrible, and so bloody, that few White want to contemplate it at this time.

Ah, but at the end the author says the following:

&quot;...although the infection is far advanced, it can still be successfully treated: the pathogens -- liberal utopians, corrupt careerists, ethnic radicals -- are known and localized, and, while finding the cure may require research and an investment of time, nerve, and effort, said cure is within reach of intelligent minds.&quot;

So the situation is NOT hopeless, after all. I would only add, as I wrote above, that finding and applying a solution will require thoughts and deeds that most Whites -- at the present time -- will find highly morally repugnant. But this will change. Intelligent minds are required, certainly, but we also need minds that are able to think the unthinkable, and men and women who are willing to take risks, make sacrifices, to commit acts of heroism and liberation.

Our White ancestors, those brave men and women who conquered continents, expelled and obliterated hordes of invading alien peoples,  knew what they had to do in order to survive and prosper. Do we? It&#039;s time to expand the boundaries of what is possible, and what is necessary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Any temporary social discomfort or inconvenience arising from voicing an unconventional opinion today will never be as bad as those that will accrue from keeping the peace &#8212; not only because they will be bad, but because they will also be permanent and irreversible.&#8221;</p>
<p>If the negative effects of  demographic change are &#8220;permanent and irreversible,&#8221; then what&#8217;s the point of writing? I for one do not believe our situation is irreversible, but that reversing will require a course of action that is so horrible, and so bloody, that few White want to contemplate it at this time.</p>
<p>Ah, but at the end the author says the following:</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;although the infection is far advanced, it can still be successfully treated: the pathogens &#8212; liberal utopians, corrupt careerists, ethnic radicals &#8212; are known and localized, and, while finding the cure may require research and an investment of time, nerve, and effort, said cure is within reach of intelligent minds.&#8221;</p>
<p>So the situation is NOT hopeless, after all. I would only add, as I wrote above, that finding and applying a solution will require thoughts and deeds that most Whites &#8212; at the present time &#8212; will find highly morally repugnant. But this will change. Intelligent minds are required, certainly, but we also need minds that are able to think the unthinkable, and men and women who are willing to take risks, make sacrifices, to commit acts of heroism and liberation.</p>
<p>Our White ancestors, those brave men and women who conquered continents, expelled and obliterated hordes of invading alien peoples,  knew what they had to do in order to survive and prosper. Do we? It&#8217;s time to expand the boundaries of what is possible, and what is necessary.</p>
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		<title>By: james</title>
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		<dc:creator>james</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 12:39:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great job!  The best &quot;Why we Write&quot; yet.  Maybe with the 2012 Olympics being held in Brazil Westerners will see what the future has in store for us...then again, probably not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great job!  The best &#8220;Why we Write&#8221; yet.  Maybe with the 2012 Olympics being held in Brazil Westerners will see what the future has in store for us&#8230;then again, probably not.</p>
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		<title>By: Wikitopian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wikitopian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 11:43:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rarely have such heights of both creativity and courage manifested themselves in the same spirit as they have in Kurtagic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rarely have such heights of both creativity and courage manifested themselves in the same spirit as they have in Kurtagic.</p>
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