Fair enough. If you are aware of the evidences of Jewish influence prior to the Revolutions, that resulted in the maladies you describe, I won’t argue with you. If you can succinctly describe your pre-18th Centuries, I would appreciate it, along with your support. If you are right, it would certainly explain quite a bit.

But to my mind–and it isn’t as if your proposition hadn’t occurred to many I’m sure–such evidence usually appears more like one in a myriad of conspiracy theories to me. [I mean, the John Calvin's real name was John Cohen kind of rubbish. Unless you have some quite hard proof otherwise...] Jewish influence in the 20th Century is not really deniable empirically; it is just impermissible to think of it. Their influence in the 16th Century (other than banking anyone against Spain) is more of a mystery to me.

I am sure that someone has a theory of how the Jews propagated monophysitism in the old Eastern Empire (leading to the fatal weakness before Islam), or how they were the font out of which the Cathars arose and the Holy Land got left behind; but I have not heard these arguments convincingly. As such, I will start from the presumption that the West’s arguable degeneration over the past 500 (?) years, is self-inflicted. I know who Spinoza is, of course. I also know of DeCartes, Hobbes, Suarez, Locke, Elizabeth, the anaBaptists etc… are, and I don’t think they were Jews, or mere dupes thereof.

On this website, in the bookstore, the book by Koselleck seems a more plausible reading holistically than what you seem to propose. I respect your position. However, unless you have some references or resources that are more persuasive otherwise, I stand by what I have stated previously.

It implies nothing of the sort. Look at the 17th century and the upheavals produced by the Jewish presence in Europe: the Enlightenment, the infusion of tikkum olam into Puritanism, philo-semitic millennialism, the regicide, the Bank of England and the replacement of monarchy with plutocracy, etc. Jewish influence was profound 250 years before Disraeli and Dreyfuss.

The White Family that is. Not a word, except to mention Traditional Family Values, and even that in passing. Usually that’s brought up as a kind of emoluent to bath us in an aura of innocence and decency. As if it was perfect, without a blemish, like the Nation-State, until the Big Bad Jew came along.

“Are Jews subordinate to the (implied) white managerial elite, or are they dominant? This very question divides white nationalists to this day.”

No divide on the issue of the family, because it’s not an issue, among WN’s, at all.

We’ve had reports on “The State of White America” but how about one on
“The State of the White Family.”

I think part of the reason is that, though people have their suspicions that an institution like the family (which only happens to be the first institution just about all of us pass through in life) plays a critical part in an individuals, and so, a societies and cultures, development, they just don’t know enough about it, or don’t want to know.

So they mutter cliches about Traditional Family Values.

I think it takes the puniest amount of introspection to see that the state of the family – the White family – is dire. People trying to do anything about it find themselves in the position of Jackie on that tragic day when after the shot was fired she crawled on the back of the car to put her man back together.
That’s about the state of the White family today.

Forget the Jews for a moment and let’s face an unpleasant fact together.
We just don’t care about each other.

The above article and the analysis involved is important and I for one am certainly grateful that we have it. Very grateful indeed.
And it’s clear that Jews have not engaged in a single act of transcendence in their entire history.
Meaning, they are not at all capable of looking at themselves from right angles, so to speak.
They have continued to behave as they always have.
They’ve only grown in power relative to our weakness.
Much as the disease of addiction grows stronger in an individual unable to stay sober long enough to fight it off.

There are a number of reasons why the Family has fallen apart.
The important point is that is has!
It’s arguably the most important influence in the development of individuals capable of participating in a culture filled with both competition and cooperation, and doing so with a reasonable amount of self-responsible authority.

I understand that we still need to engage in a lot of diagnosis, but we don’t need to indulge in it.
Especially when it’s clear that we need to take a closer look at ourselves.

Blaming Jews for the decline of the West implies that everything was just fine prior to the “Jewish Question,” prior to their enfranchisement and their relative assumption of positions of power. I very much disagree. Now, one might retort, “well, it was fine, with respect to one’s ethnicity per se, one’s civilization.” The English, the Lombards, the Czechs, and the Prussians all knew who they were, liked the fact, and at least knew how to breed. Again, I think this too simplistic.

The patient was losing its antibodies well prior to Disraeli and Dreyfuss. No Western revival will be remotely possible if the gravamen of the revival takes the form of resistance to an ethnic group. Indeed, such a gravamen will not be possible unless part of a much larger conversion of the West to itself.

I think Mr. Francis’ work on managerial elites might be more usefully viewed as a way to find the source of this elite, systemically, perhaps even spiritually, and putting a stopper in it. Finding out who fills the chairs of the elite is secondary.

I mean, no one really attributes the shattering effects of the Reformation to the Protestants themselves, to Luther, Calvin, et al. That is, even Catholics understand that the Reformation may have been inevitable under the circumstances.

http://turnabout.ath.cx:8000/node/23

This article goes really well with the article over on Occidental Dissent about the fall of major conservative magazines to Jewish editors and influences:
http://www.occidentaldissent.com/2010/01/26/jews-and-theamerican-conservative/

I posted a relevant comment on the A Letter from a Grandfather to his Genes, Part 2:

“One thing we need to keep in mind with humans is that we are capable of seeing our OWN patterns over time, and therefore perfecting and directing the otherwise blind and mindless pattern of biological urges other organisms are ruled by. We see high destinies in certain behaviors, and no destiny or only destruction in others — even saying “there is no future in that” about certain patterns like crime.. or “the wages of sin is death”. This is why race-mixing is a definite sin (eventual corruption and destruction / death, i.e. no future in it) and should be classified with other immoralities and legislated against. We have a certain pattern as Europeans which would be snuffed out by other ways and patterns — they are incompatible. I know we are not supposed to say this, but ours IS a superior pattern objectively. We can overcome more environmental obstacles and survive into the farther future with objective science rather than just strategic violence or just complex hierarchical social structure or etc. Accurate INFORMATION should be the recognized measure of evolution, morality, and survival. Lies and liars are especially bad and immoral to OUR ways..

You could make a great case that all religion was founded and started by this higher ability to recognize larger eternal patterns in us — basically as an Eugenic mechanism seen “through a glass darkly” in the past… eschewing animal passions and trying for a higher destiny. It is no accident that a religious monk discovered genetics (Mendel). Religion IS eugenics… Morality IS eugenics… yet one group with other biological patterns (hint: it starts with a “J” and ends with “eww”) and destiny at odds with us says that eugenics is somehow “immoral”?!? That is only because they wish to get rid of us, and our higher destiny before we realize it and they are unable to compete. Hyenas sneak around to eat lion cubs voraciously when they can for the same reason. See my book: “The Textbook of the Universe: The Genetic Ascent to God” for more on this perspective”

Like with the media / information takeover of our civilizations, or the “mastery of discourse” mentioned in this article by Jews, I am sure the hyenas, and most other creatures, have natural urges to do these kinds of things and don’t really “know” why they do them — it just feels really good to thwart and destroy little lions –it is interesting and fun to them. I think since so much Jewish behavior across centuries and civilizations is exactly the same, they are like hunter-gatherers tuned to wander and hunt and gather from civilizations instead of nature — using the new manipulative means of language. They use language not for truth and information gathering from nature, but as a lever in a skinner box to a rat. Manipulation with words and benefitting from it feels good to them. — and they are highly motivated and skilled in doing whatever works to stay hidden, and turn resources and power toward them while destroying power and resources of others. You might say they are at eternal war with truth — destroying and pillaging those who want to increase it in civilizations.

One cannot speak honestly about the decline of the West without discussing the Jewish Question. They dominate our media, politics, and finance. Even a superficial glance at these areas will reveal the tremendous Jewish influence. Our decline was probably facilitated by underlying factors, but without Jewish influence we would not be losing the demographic majority of our own countries. The ‘managerial elite’ that Sam Francis believed was leading us to our ruin is astoundingly Jewish. The Enron scandal would not have been possible without the hard work of Andrew Fastow, the Jewish Chief Financial Officer whose money manipulation allowed Enron to hide most of its debt before it finally crashed.

Thanks for a great article that is supportive of Francis’ legacy while directly addressing the elephant in the room.

My own thought on the JQ is that Jews are a managerial elite. White men create the novel habitat of civilization, but that habitat selects for different traits than Whiteness. Niches within that habitat become occupied by people inclined toward those roles, who memetically and genetically drift into endogamous castes – sub-species specializing for particular habitats within civilization.

Jews aren’t the only civilizational sub-specie adapted toward the niche of the managerial priesthood. They’re just the ones who were nearest to fill the vacuum. Gypsies were the nearest to fill our bottom-feeder niche. The Mandarins of China and the Bramins of India fill the managerial niche in their respective civilizations. Even if a man named the Jew with all his heart, he would deliver his civilization to the Jewish managerial elite if he worked to undermine the indigenous elite.

In fact, we have a natural experiment to demonstrate that with the life of Martin Luther, a man who delivered a death blow to our Catholic priesthood while devoting a great deal of his time and energy to vociferously and eloquently handling the Jewish Question (On the Jews and their Lies). There were serious problems with that particular indigenous elite which was toppled; I’m not suggesting that Martin Luther singularly destroyed Western Civilization as some RadTrad Catholics suggest.

What I am suggesting, though, is that the true problem is in creating or rehabilitating an indigenous managerial elite. Shrieking about Jewish power without bothering to present a sustainable alternative to that power is liable to cause nothing more than a sore throat (or perhaps a firebombed office). There is seemingly little thought put to that question, the real question, of assigning our allegiance to an alternative to Jewish managerial elites or becoming managerial elites ourselves.

Jewish influence has been harmful to America on the whole. However, whites are more than capable of being extremely suicidal on their own. We would still be in a very bad situation in America even if there never were any Jews here.