Comments on: Where are the Girls? http://www.toqonline.com/blog/where-are-the-girls/ Western Perspectives on Man, Culture, and Politics Fri, 27 Jan 2012 06:11:50 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Greg Afman http://www.toqonline.com/blog/where-are-the-girls/comment-page-1/#comment-6046 Greg Afman Fri, 05 Feb 2010 17:45:21 +0000 http://www.toqonline.com/?p=7883#comment-6046 I know it might be PC, but I think it would be a wise strategy for WN blogs to show support for female causes. By doing this, we may be able to win more women to our side. For example, this site could have a pink ribbon banner showing support for the breast cancer foundation, etc. WN will go nowhere without massive support of women. WN has got to become women friendly. Maybe run my idea of showing support of female causes (breast cancer) on WN blogs by some of the females who write for TOO and see what they think. Those are the only females I can think of who are associated with WN. I know it might be PC, but I think it would be a wise strategy for WN blogs to show support for female causes. By doing this, we may be able to win more women to our side. For example, this site could have a pink ribbon banner showing support for the breast cancer foundation, etc. WN will go nowhere without massive support of women. WN has got to become women friendly. Maybe run my idea of showing support of female causes (breast cancer) on WN blogs by some of the females who write for TOO and see what they think. Those are the only females I can think of who are associated with WN.

]]> By: Dr. Jim Saleam http://www.toqonline.com/blog/where-are-the-girls/comment-page-1/#comment-5890 Dr. Jim Saleam Tue, 02 Feb 2010 11:14:22 +0000 http://www.toqonline.com/?p=7883#comment-5890 Readers, I enjoyed John's contribution. Thoughtful indeed. I would say nonetheless, that women can and must be won to major managerial roles in a political movement . I speak here not of a purely cultural movement or an intellectual movement, but an activist phenomenon. Woman may definitely serve in the former, but I cannot see why they should be excluded from the latter. Mao put it well: "Women hold up half the sky". It may be that certain confrontational situations, or more toxic circumstances, are best left in male hands; but I'd say that if we were an army - then, with those few exceptions that allow a more direct role, women must be drafted to the militia. We really have no option. And there they will most certainly see action. I have observed an increasing number of women taking a stand in Australia. Regrettably, I have also seen men not appreciate the drive and the intelligence of their female comrades. Nonetheless, one would hope that may change. John very correctly said: of her family "It is for these she will fight like a tigress, and if necessary, gladly die. It must somehow be communicated to the women of this country that the future is extremely uncertain at best, and as perilous as a battlefield at worse." Bloody true. That spirit must be conveyed existentially. Even if not on the spot threatened, the threat is general. If a woman decides to fight, then who are we males to say that she cannot? What was that sardonic joke about the old Confederate States of America, something about its epitath: "Died Of A Theory"? It would be a grievous error if we allowed our countries to die of a theory that says our women are best left as mothers or last-minute- -defender-of-the-nation- mothers. John says that women will fight. I think that should be generalised via the means he suggested: a propaganda that shows the danger. At this late juncture we can do without knightly chivalry or bourgeois considerations. No time. Dr. Jim Saleam Readers,

I enjoyed John’s contribution. Thoughtful indeed.

I would say nonetheless, that women can and must be won to major managerial roles in a political movement . I speak here not of a purely cultural movement or an intellectual movement, but an activist phenomenon. Woman may definitely serve in the former, but I cannot see why they should be excluded from the latter.

Mao put it well: “Women hold up half the sky”.

It may be that certain confrontational situations, or more toxic circumstances, are best left in male hands; but I’d say that if we were an army – then, with those few exceptions that allow a more direct role, women must be drafted to the militia. We really have no option. And there they will most certainly see action.

I have observed an increasing number of women taking a stand in Australia. Regrettably, I have also seen men not appreciate the drive and the intelligence of their female comrades. Nonetheless, one would hope that may change.

John very correctly said: of her family “It is for these she will fight like a tigress, and if necessary, gladly die. It must somehow be communicated to the women of this country that the future is extremely uncertain at best, and as perilous as a battlefield at worse.”

Bloody true. That spirit must be conveyed existentially. Even if not on the spot threatened, the threat is general. If a woman decides to fight, then who are we males to say that she cannot?

What was that sardonic joke about the old Confederate States of America, something about its epitath: “Died Of A Theory”?

It would be a grievous error if we allowed our countries to die of a theory that says our women are best left as mothers or last-minute- -defender-of-the-nation- mothers.

John says that women will fight. I think that should be generalised via the means he suggested: a propaganda that shows the danger.

At this late juncture we can do without knightly chivalry or bourgeois considerations. No time.

Dr. Jim Saleam

]]> By: Steven E. Romer http://www.toqonline.com/blog/where-are-the-girls/comment-page-1/#comment-5884 Steven E. Romer Tue, 02 Feb 2010 09:18:49 +0000 http://www.toqonline.com/?p=7883#comment-5884 Excellent article. I think also that women are naturally not in the movement because it is one movement that truly IS important, IS a real conflict at the highest level of defensive thinking -- one that can instantly remove your livlihood and freedom... Like Charles Lindbergh's wife wrote about Charles when he was going to come out against the Jewish ww2 "war agitators". She was afraid, wished he would not, because of the social standing and respect they had and because of the "dark storm" he was facing if he did -- all while acknowledging he was right and a good man. This is a REAL war we are in -- women are not in the army, they do not engage in high-level outside risk or defense, they will defend their children and their children's immediate future aggresively though. It is a proximal view, one frought with compromise if necessary. It is the male duty to see outside this inner circle to more distant and massive threats to the people as a whole. It is a division of labor that works like a well-oiled machine when we are left to ourselves. It was also for the men to work outside the home and community which needed to be sheltered because children were raised there. They had to scout for both threats and food. They built walls, built homes, tilled fields, hunted for food, etc. Men invented science and dicovered the invisible threat of germs etc. too. We like to look off into the distance for food, information, threats, etc. White men have a need to understand, to know principles of nature from our explorations for its own sake even. The subtle patterns of the environment -- whether threatening or a wellspring of defense and invention. Women are better at subtle patterns of personality and emotion, are more patient etc. too. Men are more patient with nature, but need to be impatient when there is an imminent threat that requires action. We cannot tolerate screwing up and foibles when lives depend on it, so we rank our officers. Women have more tolerance for these bumbling and error-prone things because children are like this. Unfortunately, other races are like this too -- like children in this way. Just like men have always constituted the military, so it is with this cultural war. We need to pioneer it, we need to get it into culture as an accepted thing, then they too will rise to the new environment and effort -- they will become the "Rosie the riveter" of the new cause. There are hardly any women astrophysicists, but they do love to take their children to the planetariums. They certainly did not in the time of Copernicus. Nowadays, the real revolution in thought which is so much more important to our future and the future of the world is evolution and racial science. It has never really gotten off the ground yet. I make a case in my book (The Textbook of the Universe: The Genetic Ascent to God) that the entire impetus of science itself was toward saving our people genetically and ensuring the destiny of the great path we are on. I also show that both religion and science have the exact same overall underlying motive -- they are the same. Both are traditional male domains. Excellent article. I think also that women are naturally not in the movement because it is one movement that truly IS important, IS a real conflict at the highest level of defensive thinking — one that can instantly remove your livlihood and freedom… Like Charles Lindbergh’s wife wrote about Charles when he was going to come out against the Jewish ww2 “war agitators”. She was afraid, wished he would not, because of the social standing and respect they had and because of the “dark storm” he was facing if he did — all while acknowledging he was right and a good man. This is a REAL war we are in — women are not in the army, they do not engage in high-level outside risk or defense, they will defend their children and their children’s immediate future aggresively though. It is a proximal view, one frought with compromise if necessary. It is the male duty to see outside this inner circle to more distant and massive threats to the people as a whole. It is a division of labor that works like a well-oiled machine when we are left to ourselves. It was also for the men to work outside the home and community which needed to be sheltered because children were raised there. They had to scout for both threats and food. They built walls, built homes, tilled fields, hunted for food, etc. Men invented science and dicovered the invisible threat of germs etc. too. We like to look off into the distance for food, information, threats, etc. White men have a need to understand, to know principles of nature from our explorations for its own sake even. The subtle patterns of the environment — whether threatening or a wellspring of defense and invention. Women are better at subtle patterns of personality and emotion, are more patient etc. too. Men are more patient with nature, but need to be impatient when there is an imminent threat that requires action. We cannot tolerate screwing up and foibles when lives depend on it, so we rank our officers. Women have more tolerance for these bumbling and error-prone things because children are like this. Unfortunately, other races are like this too — like children in this way. Just like men have always constituted the military, so it is with this cultural war. We need to pioneer it, we need to get it into culture as an accepted thing, then they too will rise to the new environment and effort — they will become the “Rosie the riveter” of the new cause. There are hardly any women astrophysicists, but they do love to take their children to the planetariums. They certainly did not in the time of Copernicus. Nowadays, the real revolution in thought which is so much more important to our future and the future of the world is evolution and racial science. It has never really gotten off the ground yet. I make a case in my book (The Textbook of the Universe: The Genetic Ascent to God) that the entire impetus of science itself was toward saving our people genetically and ensuring the destiny of the great path we are on. I also show that both religion and science have the exact same overall underlying motive — they are the same. Both are traditional male domains.

]]> By: Larry http://www.toqonline.com/blog/where-are-the-girls/comment-page-1/#comment-5878 Larry Tue, 02 Feb 2010 05:14:59 +0000 http://www.toqonline.com/?p=7883#comment-5878 Although it is impossible to describe the numerous factors at work as to why women are largely absent from WN circles, I think it can mostly be summed up with 2 points: 1) Women aren't generally interested in politics of any kind. And, the women who are interested in politics tend to be feminists/leftists. I have met many women who are sympathetic to our cause and they happily choose to take the traditional role of mothers and homemakers. Simply put, women who agree with our ideas tend to be traditionalists and, thus, not interested in politics. 2) Women, generally, are much more susceptible to media propaganda than men. Their ultimate goal in life is to be popular and accepted. In today's society, this means not rocking the boat and accepting the leftist/multicultural view of the world. I have known many women who, in private, express their revulsion for blacks; yet, in public, they grovel to them like everyone else. To many white women, believing in "diversity" is like wearing high heels to a cocktail party - they don't like to do it but they know it is what is expected of them. By the way, Roger Devlin's article is right on the money as far as I am concerned. Once nationalism begins to achieve political success and, thus, some measure of social acceptability, the number of women in our ranks will grow as well. It also wouldn't hurt if WN men would get out from behind a keyboard every once in a while and ask a girl out on a date. Although it is impossible to describe the numerous factors at work as to why women are largely absent from WN circles, I think it can mostly be summed up with 2 points:
1) Women aren’t generally interested in politics of any kind. And, the women who are interested in politics tend to be feminists/leftists. I have met many women who are sympathetic to our cause and they happily choose to take the traditional role of mothers and homemakers. Simply put, women who agree with our ideas tend to be traditionalists and, thus, not interested in politics.
2) Women, generally, are much more susceptible to media propaganda than men. Their ultimate goal in life is to be popular and accepted. In today’s society, this means not rocking the boat and accepting the leftist/multicultural view of the world. I have known many women who, in private, express their revulsion for blacks; yet, in public, they grovel to them like everyone else. To many white women, believing in “diversity” is like wearing high heels to a cocktail party – they don’t like to do it but they know it is what is expected of them.

By the way, Roger Devlin’s article is right on the money as far as I am concerned. Once nationalism begins to achieve political success and, thus, some measure of social acceptability, the number of women in our ranks will grow as well. It also wouldn’t hurt if WN men would get out from behind a keyboard every once in a while and ask a girl out on a date.

]]> By: Alexander Wolfe - Murray http://www.toqonline.com/blog/where-are-the-girls/comment-page-1/#comment-5859 Alexander Wolfe - Murray Mon, 01 Feb 2010 03:57:47 +0000 http://www.toqonline.com/?p=7883#comment-5859 I can't answer the question "Where are the girls" but Harold Covington in his book, The Brigade, gives a good idea of why the men are missing. From page 51 The white man can still show physical courage.....but what we can't seem to do is to be brave on our own, for our own interests without the Jewish seal of approval. We have developed a poisonous symbiosis with the system. It needs us and we need it, psychologically. White males are addicted to social approval nowadays. We need it like an addict needs his crack pipe. We've got to have that supportive peer group around us yelling attaboy. We can be brave in a structured environment, so long as it is an officially approved sort of courage, and so long as afterwards we can belly up to the bar and talk drunken shit with the boys and get slapped on the back, and then go home to the little woman and the comfortable middle class lifestyle from which we have ventured out, however briefly. I can’t answer the question “Where are the girls” but Harold Covington in his book, The Brigade, gives a good idea of why the men are missing. From page 51
The white man can still show physical courage…..but what we can’t seem to do is to be brave on our own, for our own interests without the Jewish seal of approval. We have developed a poisonous symbiosis with the system. It needs us and we need it, psychologically. White males are addicted to social approval nowadays. We need it like an addict needs his crack pipe. We’ve got to have that supportive peer group around us yelling attaboy. We can be brave in a structured environment, so long as it is an officially approved sort of courage, and so long as afterwards we can belly up to the bar and talk drunken shit with the boys and get slapped on the back, and then go home to the little woman and the comfortable middle class lifestyle from which we have ventured out, however briefly.

]]> By: Greg Afman http://www.toqonline.com/blog/where-are-the-girls/comment-page-1/#comment-5858 Greg Afman Mon, 01 Feb 2010 03:32:22 +0000 http://www.toqonline.com/?p=7883#comment-5858 Nowadays, since the majority of people are selfish, the only result is an insane and amoral society. Our society is so deviant and dysfunctional, and the majority of people are so infected with selfishness that they will hate you and maybe even attempt to KILL YOU if you try to make them live in an unselfish manor. They are accustomed to dysfunction; they know nothing else. In other words, WN is not cool to women because it will place demands upon them to improve their dysfunctional behavior. As it is now, they literally get away with murder. There are no consequences to their poor behavior under the current system. They love it! We cannot offer white women anything better than what they have right now. Women love this materialistic, superficial, and narcissistic Judeo feministic society. You may be able to win a few to our side, but the vast majority will only learn via a total dismantling of the Judeo society. Every white woman I've met is extremely feminist, pro-multiculturalism, pro-miscegenation, and xenocentric. They aren't interested in being right; they aren't interested in the truth; they're interested in being perceived as cool, hip, and conformist. Their greatest fear is being excluded from the in-crowd, and WN isn't the "cool" in-crowd. Even when you point out to them that they'll soon be the minority they could care less. They want to be cool! Study this site. I mean, really, really study it. I don't think we can reverse this. We can prepare to be what comes after it. http://www.ourcivilisation.com/index.htm Nowadays, since the majority of people are selfish, the only result is an insane and amoral society. Our society is so deviant and dysfunctional, and the majority of people are so infected with selfishness that they will hate you and maybe even attempt to KILL YOU if you try to make them live in an unselfish manor. They are accustomed to dysfunction; they know nothing else. In other words, WN is not cool to women because it will place demands upon them to improve their dysfunctional behavior. As it is now, they literally get away with murder. There are no consequences to their poor behavior under the current system. They love it! We cannot offer white women anything better than what they have right now. Women love this materialistic, superficial, and narcissistic Judeo feministic society.

You may be able to win a few to our side, but the vast majority will only learn via a total dismantling of the Judeo society. Every white woman I’ve met is extremely feminist, pro-multiculturalism, pro-miscegenation, and xenocentric. They aren’t interested in being right; they aren’t interested in the truth; they’re interested in being perceived as cool, hip, and conformist. Their greatest fear is being excluded from the in-crowd, and WN isn’t the “cool” in-crowd. Even when you point out to them that they’ll soon be the minority they could care less. They want to be cool!

Study this site. I mean, really, really study it. I don’t think we can reverse this. We can prepare to be what comes after it.

http://www.ourcivilisation.com/index.htm

]]> By: Randy http://www.toqonline.com/blog/where-are-the-girls/comment-page-1/#comment-5854 Randy Mon, 01 Feb 2010 02:09:06 +0000 http://www.toqonline.com/?p=7883#comment-5854 Greetings David, "Not all nationalist groups are equally female-free too, so it’s not simply a matter that nationalism as such is repellent to women." Yes, this is true. Probably a more accurate way of describing the situation is that amongst nationalists we have maybe 20% that are female. Greetings David,

“Not all nationalist groups are equally female-free too, so it’s not simply a matter that nationalism as such is repellent to women.”

Yes, this is true. Probably a more accurate way of describing the situation is that amongst nationalists we have maybe 20% that are female.

]]> By: NR http://www.toqonline.com/blog/where-are-the-girls/comment-page-1/#comment-5853 NR Mon, 01 Feb 2010 01:46:13 +0000 http://www.toqonline.com/?p=7883#comment-5853 European Nationalists have been quite successful in recruiting women to their ranks. You might want to investigate why this is. European Nationalists have been quite successful in recruiting women to their ranks. You might want to investigate why this is.

]]> By: Greg Johnson http://www.toqonline.com/blog/where-are-the-girls/comment-page-1/#comment-5846 Greg Johnson Sun, 31 Jan 2010 18:19:44 +0000 http://www.toqonline.com/?p=7883#comment-5846 It would be interesting to hear from women on this issue. If there are any ladies out there with thoughts on this matter, please contact me. It would be interesting to hear from women on this issue. If there are any ladies out there with thoughts on this matter, please contact me.

]]> By: fred http://www.toqonline.com/blog/where-are-the-girls/comment-page-1/#comment-5841 fred Sun, 31 Jan 2010 16:25:27 +0000 http://www.toqonline.com/?p=7883#comment-5841 Has it never occurred to anyone to do some actual marketing research? If I had an organization or a publication that would have been the first thing I did. Has it never occurred to anyone to do some actual marketing research? If I had an organization or a publication that would have been the first thing I did.

]]> By: Harold http://www.toqonline.com/blog/where-are-the-girls/comment-page-1/#comment-5837 Harold Sun, 31 Jan 2010 11:01:12 +0000 http://www.toqonline.com/?p=7883#comment-5837 Yesterday I watched the film ‘Gone with the Wind’ in it Scarlet O’Hara says in regards to war: ‘Oh, fiddle-dee-dee. Don't you men ever think about anything important? ’. Yesterday I watched the film ‘Gone with the Wind’ in it Scarlet O’Hara says in regards to war: ‘Oh, fiddle-dee-dee. Don’t you men ever think about anything important? ’.

]]> By: David http://www.toqonline.com/blog/where-are-the-girls/comment-page-1/#comment-5834 David Sun, 31 Jan 2010 08:58:29 +0000 http://www.toqonline.com/?p=7883#comment-5834 Punk was a mass phenomenon, drugs are epidemic and have been for decades. Still there is female friendly marginalization and then there's female unfriendly marginalisation. Interesting that mainstream music and drugs involve money too. Not all nationalist groups are equally female-free too, so it's not simply a matter that nationalism as such is repellent to women. Punk was a mass phenomenon, drugs are epidemic and have been for decades. Still there is female friendly marginalization and then there’s female unfriendly marginalisation. Interesting that mainstream music and drugs involve money too. Not all nationalist groups are equally female-free too, so it’s not simply a matter that nationalism as such is repellent to women.

]]> By: Randy http://www.toqonline.com/blog/where-are-the-girls/comment-page-1/#comment-5830 Randy Sun, 31 Jan 2010 03:48:44 +0000 http://www.toqonline.com/?p=7883#comment-5830 It is not only a matter of marginalization or fear of police spies. Remember marginalization is glorified in postmodern America. Punk rockers, drug dealers, drug users, prostitutes, strippers, nerds, elf and alf, militias, all these "diverse" post modern sects are marginal, yet they attract females. I think it is safe to say that burglars and men who specialize in car theft are living with females. There is something else going on here. It is that the media has successfully programmed into the mass consciousness the idea that White advocacy is all things uncool. It is not only a matter of marginalization or fear of police spies. Remember marginalization is glorified in postmodern America. Punk rockers, drug dealers, drug users, prostitutes, strippers, nerds, elf and alf, militias, all these “diverse” post modern sects are marginal, yet they attract females. I think it is safe to say that burglars and men who specialize in car theft are living with females. There is something else going on here. It is that the media has successfully programmed into the mass consciousness the idea that White advocacy is all things uncool.

]]> By: David http://www.toqonline.com/blog/where-are-the-girls/comment-page-1/#comment-5826 David Sat, 30 Jan 2010 23:56:42 +0000 http://www.toqonline.com/?p=7883#comment-5826 I think women are attracted by success, or by the security which comes with success. Elements of the movement are so committed to marginalization that they ensure the disinterest of women. Those groups which try to broaden their appeal are frustrated by the overwhelming dominance of the opposition, they after all control all the mainstream media and political parties. The best way forward is to achieve progressive modest steps in building up a successful movement. I think women are attracted by success, or by the security which comes with success. Elements of the movement are so committed to marginalization that they ensure the disinterest of women. Those groups which try to broaden their appeal are frustrated by the overwhelming dominance of the opposition, they after all control all the mainstream media and political parties. The best way forward is to achieve progressive modest steps in building up a successful movement.

]]> By: outspoken http://www.toqonline.com/blog/where-are-the-girls/comment-page-1/#comment-5812 outspoken Sat, 30 Jan 2010 14:25:32 +0000 http://www.toqonline.com/?p=7883#comment-5812 `The lack of females in the WN circle of dissent is peculiar. ' I might shed some light. In a community of expats circa 2002, I found an abundance of young American expats who were convinced that 9/11 had been done by a conspiracy of plutocrats. They were very vocal and radical for a while, because as expats they were confident that the local police would not be spying on them. They had plenty of women. Everyone felt that the foreign country was a safe haven. Similarly, get a large number of white women in a jurisdiction where white consciousness is truly protected, and the women will soon realize that they are in a safe haven - then they will be openly radical. `The lack of females in the WN circle of dissent is peculiar. ‘

I might shed some light.

In a community of expats circa 2002, I found an abundance of young American expats who were convinced that 9/11 had been done by a conspiracy of plutocrats. They were very vocal and radical for a while, because as expats they were confident that the local police would not be spying on them. They had plenty of women. Everyone felt that the foreign country was a safe haven.

Similarly, get a large number of white women in a jurisdiction where white consciousness is truly protected, and the women will soon realize that they are in a safe haven – then they will be openly radical.

]]> By: Randy http://www.toqonline.com/blog/where-are-the-girls/comment-page-1/#comment-5801 Randy Sat, 30 Jan 2010 01:48:27 +0000 http://www.toqonline.com/?p=7883#comment-5801 The lack of females in the WN circle of dissent is peculiar. Take, for example, the drug culture, which has no lack of women. Strange isn't it that junkies can staff their ranks with the fairer sex but nationalists can't. It is not so much that girls are good and boys bad because, as we regularly observe, girls like bad boys. Girls will lustfully support bad boys financially, if the romance is present; but there is something about racist white bad boys that the girls run from. Perhaps the thing the girls run from is anger, but upon consideration no, girls in the 60's found the angry communist revolutionary sexually stimulating and romantic. Perhaps the difference is that the idea of the racist white dissident has never been fed into the consciousness of white females as romanticized figures. The proper brainwashing hasn't preceded the real life character. Since the white racist is always demonized and never romanticized in media she has no place to place him, other than to the margin. But this will all change. It is clearly a fluid situation, liable to almost instant change. By the way, I really enjoyed reading the above piece. Thanks for the contribution, John Moffat The lack of females in the WN circle of dissent is peculiar. Take, for example, the drug culture, which has no lack of women. Strange isn’t it that junkies can staff their ranks with the fairer sex but nationalists can’t. It is not so much that girls are good and boys bad because, as we regularly observe, girls like bad boys. Girls will lustfully support bad boys financially, if the romance is present; but there is something about racist white bad boys that the girls run from. Perhaps the thing the girls run from is anger, but upon consideration no, girls in the 60′s found the angry communist revolutionary sexually stimulating and romantic. Perhaps the difference is that the idea of the racist white dissident has never been fed into the consciousness of white females as romanticized figures. The proper brainwashing hasn’t preceded the real life character. Since the white racist is always demonized and never romanticized in media she has no place to place him, other than to the margin. But this will all change. It is clearly a fluid situation, liable to almost instant change.

By the way, I really enjoyed reading the above piece. Thanks for the contribution, John Moffat

]]> By: BoringPolitics http://www.toqonline.com/blog/where-are-the-girls/comment-page-1/#comment-5800 BoringPolitics Sat, 30 Jan 2010 01:30:19 +0000 http://www.toqonline.com/?p=7883#comment-5800 Perhaps a question to ask: what kind of females are attracted to political movements? Do we need more women in the pro-white political/vanguard/activist movement? Most would agree it would be better if more white women were racially conscious, but should people expend energy getting women to protest or hold up signs? Or join some political party? Why? >The same woman apologizes profusely whenever expressing anything that could even remotely be construed as a “racist” sentiment. So what? Most women don't want unpleasantness in social situations. >So now at least we might have some idea of why the girls are missing from the party. Oh no, the boys are missing the party because the party is wherever the girls are. Instead of boring the women with jabbering about your racist white utopia, why not invite them to a dance at an exclusive, members only social club? Perhaps they will notice the all-white membership, perhaps they will ignore it. Who cares? "White Nationalism" is boring to most women. The ones who are inclined should be encouraged, the ones who are not should be encouraged to do their "white girl" thing which usually means that talking about "racism" or other races is just uncouth or boring. Listen closely to the women that speak up, and don't bother the women that don't (speak up to you, that is). Everyone has their place and if you want white women to join your club, make it a nice place where they can dance and have a good time. If they want to discuss some author with you, they will. Your politics are boring, especially to women. Women like men who create facts on the ground. Perhaps a question to ask: what kind of females are attracted to political movements? Do we need more women in the pro-white political/vanguard/activist movement? Most would agree it would be better if more white women were racially conscious, but should people expend energy getting women to protest or hold up signs? Or join some political party? Why?

>The same woman apologizes profusely whenever expressing anything that could even remotely be construed as a “racist” sentiment.

So what? Most women don’t want unpleasantness in social situations.

>So now at least we might have some idea of why the girls are missing from the party.

Oh no, the boys are missing the party because the party is wherever the girls are. Instead of boring the women with jabbering about your racist white utopia, why not invite them to a dance at an exclusive, members only social club? Perhaps they will notice the all-white membership, perhaps they will ignore it. Who cares?

“White Nationalism” is boring to most women. The ones who are inclined should be encouraged, the ones who are not should be encouraged to do their “white girl” thing which usually means that talking about “racism” or other races is just uncouth or boring.

Listen closely to the women that speak up, and don’t bother the women that don’t (speak up to you, that is). Everyone has their place and if you want white women to join your club, make it a nice place where they can dance and have a good time. If they want to discuss some author with you, they will.

Your politics are boring, especially to women. Women like men who create facts on the ground.

]]> By: NR http://www.toqonline.com/blog/where-are-the-girls/comment-page-1/#comment-5799 NR Sat, 30 Jan 2010 01:09:24 +0000 http://www.toqonline.com/?p=7883#comment-5799 The problem lies not only with white women, but with our men as well. White men, I would aver, including nationalist men, are insufficiently masculine and aggressive. White men need to be hard, fit, and tough. The confidence and warrior attitude (killer instinct) will follow, and with it our women. The problem lies not only with white women, but with our men as well. White men, I would aver, including nationalist men, are insufficiently masculine and aggressive. White men need to be hard, fit, and tough. The confidence and warrior attitude (killer instinct) will follow, and with it our women.

]]> By: Morgan http://www.toqonline.com/blog/where-are-the-girls/comment-page-1/#comment-5798 Morgan Sat, 30 Jan 2010 00:50:06 +0000 http://www.toqonline.com/?p=7883#comment-5798 Women in the movement is definitely a case of <i>if you build it they will come.</i> The media is wont to portray white racialists as idiots from the low socio-economic dregs of society that blame their failures in life on non-whites. Women and status conscious whites won't touch such an inviable movement. In liberal democratic politics perception is everything. No matter how much the average white may agree with the message they won't join a movement they perceive to be inviable. The perception of viability is not enough. The movement must become viable; politically, culturally, socially and economically. Throw the movement a regular financial contribution. Organise in your networks. Do what must be done to be successful. Success breeds success. We're doing this in Australia under the motto of "many fronts under one command". Take my advice and thank me later when your meetings are no longer sausagefests. Women in the movement is definitely a case of if you build it they will come. The media is wont to portray white racialists as idiots from the low socio-economic dregs of society that blame their failures in life on non-whites. Women and status conscious whites won’t touch such an inviable movement.

In liberal democratic politics perception is everything. No matter how much the average white may agree with the message they won’t join a movement they perceive to be inviable. The perception of viability is not enough. The movement must become viable; politically, culturally, socially and economically. Throw the movement a regular financial contribution. Organise in your networks. Do what must be done to be successful. Success breeds success.

We’re doing this in Australia under the motto of “many fronts under one command”. Take my advice and thank me later when your meetings are no longer sausagefests.

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