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		<title>By: Steven E. Romer</title>
		<link>http://www.toqonline.com/2010/03/join-the-dance/comment-page-1/#comment-7026</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven E. Romer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Mar 2010 15:51:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If there is one thing Jews are good at it is starting movements and erecting barriers to other movements, or even in the direction of arguments 1 on 1. One of the reasons (besides high verbal ability) they are good at it is because they do not view truth as the aim of debate, just winning in the name of their interests. That puts people (US) who use communication and debate as a means of finding truth at a disadvantage. Jews like to define the field for debate by introducing terms or re-defining existing terms. They re-define the basic morality of things they don&#039;t like -- even if they are the epitome of morality (i.e. Eugenics -- since morality is a natural form of eugenics, to define eugenics as &quot;immoral&quot; is to invert the foundation of morality itself; another great example is Boas and the re-defining of anthropology that Dr. MacDonald talks about in The Culture of Critique). They do these semantic acrobatics as well as the larger political and media manipulations without truth as a litmus. That puts us at a disadvantage since we are limited (by truth) and they are not. Now when we talk about what should be obvious truths like the differences between races, they have us arguing about WHETHER there is a difference!?! By defining the realm of debate in ridiculous ways like this, they keep us expending our energies in unproductive ways. They delay us--keep us corralled. 

In reference to the point Larry made, all they need to do is delay -- to keep us from getting traction as a movement. Demographics are set to bury us in only a couple decades. Imagine the populations of non-Europeans as a pyramid -- with the top being smaller and having the oldest people and the base being the flood of the young. Now invert this pyramid, with a tiny number of the young at the smaller base and the great mass of people at the top who are much older. As time goes by, every year that goes by, The huge base of our inverted pyramid loses a layer while the huge base of the upright pyramid of the other races adds a more massive base layer. We are disappearing. Already at the younger age levels we are in the minority RIGHT NOW. We need to get this going FAST. The diversion and snuffing out of the TEA party movement was a huge blow. How can we stop these diversionary tactics? We need momentum. The Delaying is like stopping an ambulance on the way to a trauma, or a fire engine on the way to a fire. If you want to kill someone whom you have injured mortally or torched, all you need to do is delay help (thanks Jews, and your duped lackeys..). Or, more pointedly, delay the cavalry to the besieged people at the Alamo....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If there is one thing Jews are good at it is starting movements and erecting barriers to other movements, or even in the direction of arguments 1 on 1. One of the reasons (besides high verbal ability) they are good at it is because they do not view truth as the aim of debate, just winning in the name of their interests. That puts people (US) who use communication and debate as a means of finding truth at a disadvantage. Jews like to define the field for debate by introducing terms or re-defining existing terms. They re-define the basic morality of things they don&#8217;t like &#8212; even if they are the epitome of morality (i.e. Eugenics &#8212; since morality is a natural form of eugenics, to define eugenics as &#8220;immoral&#8221; is to invert the foundation of morality itself; another great example is Boas and the re-defining of anthropology that Dr. MacDonald talks about in The Culture of Critique). They do these semantic acrobatics as well as the larger political and media manipulations without truth as a litmus. That puts us at a disadvantage since we are limited (by truth) and they are not. Now when we talk about what should be obvious truths like the differences between races, they have us arguing about WHETHER there is a difference!?! By defining the realm of debate in ridiculous ways like this, they keep us expending our energies in unproductive ways. They delay us&#8211;keep us corralled. </p>
<p>In reference to the point Larry made, all they need to do is delay &#8212; to keep us from getting traction as a movement. Demographics are set to bury us in only a couple decades. Imagine the populations of non-Europeans as a pyramid &#8212; with the top being smaller and having the oldest people and the base being the flood of the young. Now invert this pyramid, with a tiny number of the young at the smaller base and the great mass of people at the top who are much older. As time goes by, every year that goes by, The huge base of our inverted pyramid loses a layer while the huge base of the upright pyramid of the other races adds a more massive base layer. We are disappearing. Already at the younger age levels we are in the minority RIGHT NOW. We need to get this going FAST. The diversion and snuffing out of the TEA party movement was a huge blow. How can we stop these diversionary tactics? We need momentum. The Delaying is like stopping an ambulance on the way to a trauma, or a fire engine on the way to a fire. If you want to kill someone whom you have injured mortally or torched, all you need to do is delay help (thanks Jews, and your duped lackeys..). Or, more pointedly, delay the cavalry to the besieged people at the Alamo&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: John Walters</title>
		<link>http://www.toqonline.com/2010/03/join-the-dance/comment-page-1/#comment-6963</link>
		<dc:creator>John Walters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 23:54:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&#039;Unless ZOG can shut down the internet and disarm the whites (about 80 million of whom own guns, and about 5 million of whom or organized via the NRA and/or militias), that tipping point is already passed.&#039;&lt;/i&gt;
&lt;b&gt;
&#039;I keep posting these Turner Diaries scenarios hoping that they will attract some critical commentary.&#039;
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I will try my hand at criticism.

I have no idea of the demographic profile of white gun-owners.

Here are two scenarios:
Scenario 1:
ZOG attempts to crack down on 80 million white gun-owners.  10 million turn out to be police-worshipping  authoritarians who happily surrender and load themselves into the paddy wagons.  10 million more turn out to be, either genetically or sociologically, loyal to some Jewish faction (including anyone from Hal Turner to Noam Chomsky).  A further 10 million are devout Christians who are persuaded to cooperate by silver-tongued preachers.  30 million attempt resistance but immediately make stupid mistakes, and are out of the fight due to weapon malfunctions, obesity-induced heart attacks, etc. 10 million men make the mistake of trusting their wives and girlfriends, who betray them to police. The remaining 10 million hard-core whites are overwhelmed by Mexican drug gangs.

Scenario 2:
The puppet-masters order the police to round up the 80 million armed whites.   However, the police are heavily infiltrated by Constitutionalists, racialists, radical Christians, psychologically disturbed men, and nihilistic malcontents.  These infiltrators mostly leak information to the international audience.   The Chinese ambassador informs Obama and his handlers (Kissinger, Brzezinski, etc.) that martial law would make the US dollar worthless and that 10% of the Chinese Treasury bill holdings have already been dumped, as a credible threat.  Rather than see the remaining 90% of the Treasury bills dumped, Obama offers the Chinese extensive real estate holdings, and American workers rejoice, because their new Chinese bosses are less incompetent than the previous ones.  (This is not unlike the fall of Rome, but with the Chinese as the Teutons.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8216;Unless ZOG can shut down the internet and disarm the whites (about 80 million of whom own guns, and about 5 million of whom or organized via the NRA and/or militias), that tipping point is already passed.&#8217;</i><br />
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&#8216;I keep posting these Turner Diaries scenarios hoping that they will attract some critical commentary.&#8217;<br />
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I will try my hand at criticism.</p>
<p>I have no idea of the demographic profile of white gun-owners.</p>
<p>Here are two scenarios:<br />
Scenario 1:<br />
ZOG attempts to crack down on 80 million white gun-owners.  10 million turn out to be police-worshipping  authoritarians who happily surrender and load themselves into the paddy wagons.  10 million more turn out to be, either genetically or sociologically, loyal to some Jewish faction (including anyone from Hal Turner to Noam Chomsky).  A further 10 million are devout Christians who are persuaded to cooperate by silver-tongued preachers.  30 million attempt resistance but immediately make stupid mistakes, and are out of the fight due to weapon malfunctions, obesity-induced heart attacks, etc. 10 million men make the mistake of trusting their wives and girlfriends, who betray them to police. The remaining 10 million hard-core whites are overwhelmed by Mexican drug gangs.</p>
<p>Scenario 2:<br />
The puppet-masters order the police to round up the 80 million armed whites.   However, the police are heavily infiltrated by Constitutionalists, racialists, radical Christians, psychologically disturbed men, and nihilistic malcontents.  These infiltrators mostly leak information to the international audience.   The Chinese ambassador informs Obama and his handlers (Kissinger, Brzezinski, etc.) that martial law would make the US dollar worthless and that 10% of the Chinese Treasury bill holdings have already been dumped, as a credible threat.  Rather than see the remaining 90% of the Treasury bills dumped, Obama offers the Chinese extensive real estate holdings, and American workers rejoice, because their new Chinese bosses are less incompetent than the previous ones.  (This is not unlike the fall of Rome, but with the Chinese as the Teutons.)</p>
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		<title>By: Larry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Larry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 07:00:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andrew Hamilton,
I agree.  All I hear is talk of a spontaneous uprising of angry whites, but this will never happen unless someone takes the first step and, as the article says, someone is brave enough to join in.  White nationalist at the moment seem content to sit back and wait for this spontaneous uprising.  It will not happen. 

People have to be led.  I believe that this multicultural government will eventually crash under its own weight, but we must be prepared to step in and provide leadership when this happens.  People will join in if they see leaders taking the first step.  Look at the Tea Party movement.  Hundreds of thousands of formerly passive people have joined in and been activated.  The problem is that the movement was quickly co-opted by those who made the movement safe to the ruling elites by directing white rage against financial regulation and the healthcare bill rather than towards issues that could actually hurt the elites plans such as immigration.  When this happened, the would be &quot;thugs&quot; such as conservative talk radio gave their approval and people viewed it as &quot;safe&quot; to join in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrew Hamilton,<br />
I agree.  All I hear is talk of a spontaneous uprising of angry whites, but this will never happen unless someone takes the first step and, as the article says, someone is brave enough to join in.  White nationalist at the moment seem content to sit back and wait for this spontaneous uprising.  It will not happen. </p>
<p>People have to be led.  I believe that this multicultural government will eventually crash under its own weight, but we must be prepared to step in and provide leadership when this happens.  People will join in if they see leaders taking the first step.  Look at the Tea Party movement.  Hundreds of thousands of formerly passive people have joined in and been activated.  The problem is that the movement was quickly co-opted by those who made the movement safe to the ruling elites by directing white rage against financial regulation and the healthcare bill rather than towards issues that could actually hurt the elites plans such as immigration.  When this happened, the would be &#8220;thugs&#8221; such as conservative talk radio gave their approval and people viewed it as &#8220;safe&#8221; to join in.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Hamilton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Hamilton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 02:07:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not going to hold my breath waiting for a spontaneous uprising of the type envisioned. Talk of a &quot;white backlash&quot; has been common . . . forever. Indeed, there was a small backlash to desegregation. But it was swiftly and brutally suppressed. Moreover, that was when whites possessed more collective will, money, consciousness of kind, and power than they do today. 

That said, seadragonconquerer is referring to Thomas Chittum, not Pierce.

William Pierce did not harbor ideas of a spontaneous uprising. He believed an &quot;organizational nexus&quot; was required first. His idea (quite plausible) was that the current order will disintegrate as a result of its own internal contradictions and, as he put it, &quot;someone has to inherit the wreckage.&quot;

His hope was that as the totalitarian anti-white state slowly disintegrated, the opposition (IF it first existed in organized form with clear, radical goals) could grow in strength parallel with the decline of the existing order.

It was a reasonable, proactive vision, perhaps the best one I&#039;ve seen. 

I&#039;m referring to his revolutionary prose writing, not The Turner Diaries or Hunter. The latter had additional purposes not directly related to the former. The novels did however reveal that his personal psychological vision was a bloody and strange one—as is that of the Jews and government.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not going to hold my breath waiting for a spontaneous uprising of the type envisioned. Talk of a &#8220;white backlash&#8221; has been common . . . forever. Indeed, there was a small backlash to desegregation. But it was swiftly and brutally suppressed. Moreover, that was when whites possessed more collective will, money, consciousness of kind, and power than they do today. </p>
<p>That said, seadragonconquerer is referring to Thomas Chittum, not Pierce.</p>
<p>William Pierce did not harbor ideas of a spontaneous uprising. He believed an &#8220;organizational nexus&#8221; was required first. His idea (quite plausible) was that the current order will disintegrate as a result of its own internal contradictions and, as he put it, &#8220;someone has to inherit the wreckage.&#8221;</p>
<p>His hope was that as the totalitarian anti-white state slowly disintegrated, the opposition (IF it first existed in organized form with clear, radical goals) could grow in strength parallel with the decline of the existing order.</p>
<p>It was a reasonable, proactive vision, perhaps the best one I&#8217;ve seen. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m referring to his revolutionary prose writing, not The Turner Diaries or Hunter. The latter had additional purposes not directly related to the former. The novels did however reveal that his personal psychological vision was a bloody and strange one—as is that of the Jews and government.</p>
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		<title>By: outspoken</title>
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		<dc:creator>outspoken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 01:47:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have often observed that Jewish women can be &quot;Thugs&quot; in the sense of people who &quot;effectively erect a barrier.&quot;

One such woman is Elizabeth Wurtzel.

http://www.the-spearhead.com/2010/03/16/the-wistfulness-of-elizabeth-wurtzel/

Wurtzel is noteworthy because her insanity is contagious.  She pursues a convert over land and sea, and once captured, the convert becomes more depraved than the proselytizer.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_Wurtzel

To quote Wikipedia:
&lt;i&gt;
In January 2009, she authored a highly controversial article at The Guardian,[10]  arguing that the vehemence of opposition demonstrated in Europe to Israel&#039;s actions in the 2008–2009 Israel–Gaza conflict, when compared to the international reaction to human rights abuses in China, Darfur and Arab countries, suggested an antisemitic  undercurrent fueling the outrage. In her words,
“ 	But to communicate with anyone I think of as rightminded (and left-leaning) in any other part of the world [i.e. outside the US] is to experience the purest antisemitism since the Nazi era. In fact, in Europe right now, it is de rigueur to liken the current regime in Israel with the Nazi party, and to view the experience of the Palestinians as a form of ethnic cleansing. Hamas and Hezbollah are thought by the French and British to be social welfare organisations, and Israel is viewed as a terrorist state. 	”
“ 	...with all the troubles in the world, with the terrible things that the Chinese do in Tibet, and do to their own citizens; with the horrors of genocide committed in Darfur by Sudanese Muslims; with all the bad things that Arab governments in the Middle East visit upon their own people — no need for Israel to have a perfectly horrible time — still, the focus is on what the Jews may or may not be doing wrong in Gaza. And it makes people angry and vehement as nothing else does. The vitriol it inspires is downright weird.
&lt;/i&gt;

I would note that many journalists, media vultures, publicists, and similar hangers-on act as Thugs.

Countermeasures against such Thugs are an area to which I devote considerable attention.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have often observed that Jewish women can be &#8220;Thugs&#8221; in the sense of people who &#8220;effectively erect a barrier.&#8221;</p>
<p>One such woman is Elizabeth Wurtzel.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.the-spearhead.com/2010/03/16/the-wistfulness-of-elizabeth-wurtzel/" rel="nofollow">http://www.the-spearhead.com/2010/03/16/the-wistfulness-of-elizabeth-wurtzel/</a></p>
<p>Wurtzel is noteworthy because her insanity is contagious.  She pursues a convert over land and sea, and once captured, the convert becomes more depraved than the proselytizer.</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_Wurtzel" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_Wurtzel</a></p>
<p>To quote Wikipedia:<br />
<i><br />
In January 2009, she authored a highly controversial article at The Guardian,[10]  arguing that the vehemence of opposition demonstrated in Europe to Israel&#8217;s actions in the 2008–2009 Israel–Gaza conflict, when compared to the international reaction to human rights abuses in China, Darfur and Arab countries, suggested an antisemitic  undercurrent fueling the outrage. In her words,<br />
“ 	But to communicate with anyone I think of as rightminded (and left-leaning) in any other part of the world [i.e. outside the US] is to experience the purest antisemitism since the Nazi era. In fact, in Europe right now, it is de rigueur to liken the current regime in Israel with the Nazi party, and to view the experience of the Palestinians as a form of ethnic cleansing. Hamas and Hezbollah are thought by the French and British to be social welfare organisations, and Israel is viewed as a terrorist state. 	”<br />
“ 	&#8230;with all the troubles in the world, with the terrible things that the Chinese do in Tibet, and do to their own citizens; with the horrors of genocide committed in Darfur by Sudanese Muslims; with all the bad things that Arab governments in the Middle East visit upon their own people — no need for Israel to have a perfectly horrible time — still, the focus is on what the Jews may or may not be doing wrong in Gaza. And it makes people angry and vehement as nothing else does. The vitriol it inspires is downright weird.<br />
</i></p>
<p>I would note that many journalists, media vultures, publicists, and similar hangers-on act as Thugs.</p>
<p>Countermeasures against such Thugs are an area to which I devote considerable attention.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Yeoman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Yeoman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 00:18:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>seadragonconquerer:

As the Federal response to Hurricane Katrina showed (with Blackwater mercenaries illegally deputized and seizing civilian owned firearms) the un-arming of Americans will be as orderly as Australia, the UK, and other countries.  Deer hunters with 20 rounds of ammunition does not make the brave riflemen at Lexington-Concord.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>seadragonconquerer:</p>
<p>As the Federal response to Hurricane Katrina showed (with Blackwater mercenaries illegally deputized and seizing civilian owned firearms) the un-arming of Americans will be as orderly as Australia, the UK, and other countries.  Deer hunters with 20 rounds of ammunition does not make the brave riflemen at Lexington-Concord.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Johnson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 22:34:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I keep posting these &lt;i&gt;Turner Diaries&lt;/i&gt; scenarios hoping that they will attract some critical commentary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I keep posting these <i>Turner Diaries</i> scenarios hoping that they will attract some critical commentary.</p>
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		<title>By: seadragonconquerer</title>
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		<dc:creator>seadragonconquerer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 22:28:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unless ZOG can shut down the internet and disarm the whites (about 80 million of whom own guns, and about 5 million of whom or organized via the NRA and/or militias), that tipping point is already passed. We await only a spark sequence: economic collapse&gt;martial law&gt;gun confiscation attempt. When ZOG enforcers attempt to disarm us, Civil War II will begin. Here it will not be a matter of who is willing to &quot;dance first&quot; but, like the riflemen at Lexington-Concord, who is willing to die first. My plans are made, and I keep my 30-30 on permanent load.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unless ZOG can shut down the internet and disarm the whites (about 80 million of whom own guns, and about 5 million of whom or organized via the NRA and/or militias), that tipping point is already passed. We await only a spark sequence: economic collapse&gt;martial law&gt;gun confiscation attempt. When ZOG enforcers attempt to disarm us, Civil War II will begin. Here it will not be a matter of who is willing to &#8220;dance first&#8221; but, like the riflemen at Lexington-Concord, who is willing to die first. My plans are made, and I keep my 30-30 on permanent load.</p>
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