Second topic, in re Steven E. Romer: ‘our ideas should be UNIVERSALLY accepted by all races — because they are universally moral. Call me naive, but I imagine all the races pitching in together to support each other in their, and OUR racial eugenic programs — including segregation. If we keep on this path, I think we have the highest chance of success.’

Honesty is the best policy. I have a dream: I envision a world in which every person can speak his (or her) mind openly and state the truth to the best of available knowledge, and seek further truth, without fear of repression.

To establish such a world of truth-seeking, one must oppose Ziofascist censorship, fraud, and disinformation. If white, yellow, brown, and black races can agree that truth is preferable than falsehood, we have a starting point for coexistence. I am not a Muslim, nor a Buddhist, but I see myself as having a great deal of common ground with honest thinkers of those faiths.

But the NW struggle — though it too will be largely urban — or suburban — looks to wage a 4GW action, in which the American colonials ride around in very fast cars — which is as American as the IRA is Irish.

The moral of this story is that there is no escape from the inevitable. Therefore, retreating to the wilderness is a non-starter.

The Irish Republican Army drew a lot of its success from having bases within its own community. Had the IRA retreated to the Irish countryside in the hope of creating a “FREE” independent Ireland, then I’m sure it would have failed miserably. I know the parallel is not exactly the same as what white nationalist face today, but it’s a good example of how we ALL need to stick together. OUR people may indeed be hostile at the moment to those it perceives enemies and not saviors, but this is rapidly changing. In the meantime, let’s sink roots into local white communities, and not jump too far ahead of ourselves. The creation of a white homeland is just one of them jumps.

Michael, I will indeed read Covington’s A Distant Thunder.

We are not that far apart.

And I too despair.

I came of age in the early Sixties and I have seen all the terrible things corrupting our youth that you mention, as well as an astonishing demographic transformation that upsets me to no end, as my homeland ceases to be.

We agree in wanting to re-awake the heroes — who, btw, I’m seeing more of, especially more of in your Britain — as young men stand up in the streets of your cities to defend themselves.

I realize I’m something of a dreamer, looking for the long shot that will get us out of the desperate straits we’ve gotten into. That’s my Fenian blood..

You should read Covington, who’s nothing like William Pearse (who wrote that crude book, which I, and a hundred thousand other adolescents, immensely enjoyed, especially for the vicariousness of it all). I recommend Covington’s A Distant Thunder.

One last point: in my view, the last Nietzschean Ubermenschen were born in Junger’s storms of steel and came to manhood in the interwar period, realizing their extraordinary destiny in that heritage of European revolutionary nationalism, with whose cause I identify.

I have read a few of your earlier pieces and completely liked them.

You are indeed right but also wrong. I know that the present system cannot be reformed, but it will never be violently overthrown. With each passing day our enemies are changing the individual by means of fashions, music, race mixing and TV etc. As the (white male) individual begins this process he will slip further and further into a feminized state, into complete demoralization and subjugation. As the white male is being subverted in this way, the non – whites will be dispossessing him house by house, street by street and neighborhood by neighborhood. I do not believe this will end up a race war in the true sense of the word, but more a war of violence, rape, murder and dispossession. Our enemies have been very careful that the Nietzschean Superman is never awoken. In fact, I believe the last Nietzschean Supermen died at the Somme. So what do we do? Whatever we do we need to do it now, and not in 10 or 20 years time, at some remote baron wilderness. The longer we leave this, the less chance we will ever have of stopping it, let alone turning it around. Our young people of today are being turned into freaks and misfits by Jews pushing the likes of Lady Ga Ga and co. My generation was the last that offered any hope of salvation. We have now sadly lost that opportunity.

Michael, now here’s where I agree with you:

“And besides, the object of our struggle is not to resign ourselves to the demise of the Nietzschean Ubermensch (that’s the course of Nietzsche’s Last Man), but to rekindle that Aryo-Western spirit that makes us worthy of our European destiny.”

We need to push “Towards The Superman” before there’s no more Supermen left. We have to counter the poison that is destroying our youth, and we will never do this staying silent over rock music or the Simpsons, in that it may offend people. While our young absorb this garbage then the Aryo-Western spirit will never even get off the ground, let alone be victorious. This is what I mean when I say we need to change (it back) the individual and culture.

We also need to win small towns and cities by the ballot box and not run away into the wilderness. This is now being achieved by the BNP in England, with excellent results. We need areas our people can control and feel save in, as bases of white occupation. Don’t forget, the reds only overthrew St Petersburg to win Russia. Once they conciliated their power they then went to the smaller towns and cities and massacred them all. If Nationalists could control sections of its country, then at least they would begin to have a fighting chance. This, coupled with Nietzschean Supermen, will give our people HOPE.

http://www.toqonline.com/archives/v1n1/TOQv1n1Stimely.pdf

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2007/apr/04/usa.race

With gays, I personally don’t understand that perception and behavior in the least, but I really do not give it a second thought. I think about it so little that I was surprised in years past when I found out years after college that my best friend at one time was gay. I had no idea whatsoever. I think it is a marginal side issue which has no bearing on our fate as a people except that Jews have stirred the gays into their cauldron of “otherness” as another faction to help them boil us alive in their stew of “we are all persecuted by whitey so let’s get ‘im” coalition. Even if gays mattered for some reason — even religious — they still would not really matter because they do not procreate, right?

Anyway, my point is that Eugenics is a very complex topic and warrants massive research. Some things in eugenics are very simple however — like making sure our highest-functioning people are also procreating in large numbers, and our lowest-functioning not procreating. It’s all about moving the bar upward. To even consider the idea of any sort of violence is completely 100% counterproductive and absolutely unnecessary. While it might give a thrill like a little kid wanting god to kill the bully at school, it has no place in our movement IMHO.

I am serious when I say that our ideas should be UNIVERSALLY accepted by all races — because they are universally moral. Call me naive, but I imagine all the races pitching in together to support each other in their, and OUR racial eugenic programs — including segregation. If we keep on this path, I think we have the highest chance of success. I am not “wimping out” either in any way. Actions speak louder than words, and I think the reactions of other races to our MORAL program will say the right things to the world — whether their behavior goes the way I like to envision or not…

You think Covington’s vision a fantasy. And I would agree that it is highly unlikely that white men are ever going to throw off their comfortable chains and act like their ancestors, who defended their lands with sword in hand.

But isn’t it an even greater (and less noble) fantasy to think that the existing system — product not just of Jewish machinations, as the naive among us believe, but of two or three centuries of what Spengler called “Zivilisation” — can be reformed?

Moreover, any reform within the present order, no matter how consequential, would simply be inverted — for the system, by its very nature, reduces everything to its quantifying, mechanistic, rationalizing, technicizing, leveling, and deadening logic.

Ultimately, the only thing that will save us is an awakening of a new sensibility and a reorientation of the spirit. And this, as Vico tells us, is always a product of heroic ages — in which the bravehearted stand and fight for their idea.

You speak of changing the culture and the individual. Yes. But how?

I say that such change will come in the way it has always come — through struggle — struggle not in the parliamentary gas houses — but in the streets and on the fields of battle.

Impossible, you say. Perhaps. But the “realistic” way you propose has centuries of failure behind it. And besides, the object of our struggle is not to resign ourselves to the demise of the Nietzschean Ubermensch (that’s the course of Nietzsche’s Last Man), but to rekindle that Aryo-Western spirit that makes us worthy of our European destiny.

We either take our planet back or we completely lose it. Sorry, but the idea of a white homeland, surrounded by millions of our enemies, is a non-starter.

As life in the West gets steadily worse, both may find themselves more pragmatic than morally narcissistic.

I would say my opinions on gays have very much evolved from my becoming racially aware, which I feel can be summed up with the phrase…”bigger fish.”

Sorry, Mr. Johnson, I know you don’t like short, meaningless entries; therefore, I understand if you don’t wish to publish the above little sentence.

Thus Christianity reinforced – but did not create – homophobia, monogamy and other aspects of traditional Northern European sexual morality.

Said Something: ‘Homosexuality is an unfortunate developmental disorder, probably with some sort of hormonal cause. Like with someone who is sadly deaf, we make allowances.’

Robin Baker wrote a book called Sperm Wars: Infidelity, Sexual Conflict, and other Bedroom Battles, in which she suggested that bisexuality as a recessive trait would promote reproduction, and that when recessive bisexual genes combine, exclusive homosexuality results. Either Baker’s book, or a more recent book that can address her claims, would be useful to TOQOnline.

Johnson: ‘There are, of course, other possible historical and cultural sources for homicidal punishment of race-mixers/adulterers and homosexuals…’

Certainly the historical and cultural sources are important in the long run. I look forward to the day when some white genius will publish an easy-to-read summary of how to understand the history of white spirituality, going from the Vedas to the Eddas to J. Evola.
Such an ambitious book, however, is not the most urgent goal for the present website.

Perhaps Kurtagic will be inspired to write more about white religion, in a more pagan vein than his excellent post at:
http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/authors/Kurtagic-Quakers.html

I too tend to share many of Covington’s “day of the rope” fantasies. And leaders of the Gay Pride movement and other pervaders of degenerate sexual and social practices certainly figure in my version of these “fantasies.”

At the same time, I accept that homosexuality is probably inherited, affecting 2 or 3 percent of the population.

No healthy society would, of course, promote or publicly endorse homosexuality because of its obvious dysgenic implications. But our imagined white nation, reconnected again to Europe’s High Culture, would likely assume a more nuanced view than the two extremes dominating today’s discourse on the subject.

Moreover, in the years I’ve spent in the white nationalist “movement,” I have met more than a few comrades who I thought were homosexual. Their behavior was not “gay,” revealingly, and they shared many of the same conservative life-style values I uphold.

I’ve also come to suspect that the percentage of homosexuals in our “movement” is probably higher than that of the general population.

Just as my own background put me at odds with our Jew-run Anglo-Protestant middle-class society and helped make me a rebel, I imagine that homosexuality has a similar alienating and consciousness-changing effect — and could lead to an explicit white identity.

I believe, therefore, that homosexuals who share our values and fight our fight (which means, among other things, keeping their sexual preferences private) ought to be accepted into our “movement” and in the white nation this movement seeks to liberate. Despite the conflicting rhetoric, this has also been the way Europeans have generally dealt with the issue.

Yes, you are right, according to that doctor/vet and also to a practitioner of old oriental medicine whose works I read ages ago. The hormonal troubles have their basis in a serious lack of certain minerals during gestation. According to the first doctor, this is why it is not uncommon to find that homosexuals are the last in a line of several children born to to the same woman – a simple case of the mother’s body having run out of the minerals necessary to spark the enzyme reactions necessary for balanced hormone production. I have seen this myself in some distant relatives and acquaintances. And firstborns are sometimes homosexuals, also. But the basic cause is the same.

Of course, there are women who’ve had 10 kids who don’t produce homosexuals but either they are tough birds with a wonderful constitution; or her later progeny are weak in other ways. All the more reason why both men and women who want to have children should take very good care of their health, eating a more-than-adequate diet prior to conception; living a clean, moderate life; and consuming special,nutrient- rich foods during pregnancy, which is what some precivilized tribes used to do. No science! No doctors! No Einstein! Yet they knew “eugenics” by instinct.