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		<title>By: Tom Jefferson</title>
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		<description>“TJ thinks that skin pigment matters more than a man’s willingness to pick up a weapon and stand by your side at at the next Concord Bridge. We’ll just see about that.”

If we tell them they are dying for a white nation, why should we hesitate to use the traitors and self-haters of other races at the next Concord Bridge? Far more honest than the likes of Compassionate Fascist, who would say to them that the races of man are as interchangeable as clean underwear before wrapping them in the Stars &amp; Stripes, waving the Constitution of the old nation&#039;s (Occidental) Founders in their face, and sending them off to die in order to protect his, uh, “freedom” (privileges).</description>
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<p>If we tell them they are dying for a white nation, why should we hesitate to use the traitors and self-haters of other races at the next Concord Bridge? Far more honest than the likes of Compassionate Fascist, who would say to them that the races of man are as interchangeable as clean underwear before wrapping them in the Stars &amp; Stripes, waving the Constitution of the old nation&#8217;s (Occidental) Founders in their face, and sending them off to die in order to protect his, uh, “freedom” (privileges).</p>
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		<title>By: CompassionateFascist</title>
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		<dc:creator>CompassionateFascist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2010 02:55:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TJ thinks that skin pigment matters more than a man&#039;s willingness to pick up a weapon and stand by your side at at the next Concord Bridge. We&#039;ll just see about that.</description>
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		<title>By: Tom Jefferson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Jefferson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Mar 2010 17:26:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“Before secession, the ZOG has got to be destroyed and replaced. Otherwise secession will not succeed. Then we’ll see if a predominantly White Republic lets you secede and set up your albino bantustan. I doubt it – I wouldn’t – but we will see.”

Albino.  Albinism is a congenital disorder which has nothing to do with race.  African albinos are not “white people,” as we use the term here.  Surely you understand that?

Bantustan.  Why anybody would call something along the lines of a Swiss commune or canton a “Bantustan” is beyond me.  Not even an Old Amish or Mennonite enclave qualifies as a valid comparison.  So why are you doing it?

Destroying ZOG.  How can we challenge, much less destroy, ZOG without hundreds or thousands of white “Bantustans” at our back?  

Secession.  Secession of the mind first, followed by secession on the ground.  Secession on the ground – vertical secession – occurs in stages.  The first involves the creation of alternate, collaborating social and economic systems on local and regional levels.  The second is political, whereby we acquire civil legitimacy at local and regional levels.  It is at this stage, too, where we begin the process of raising ZOG’s opportunity costs.  The third stage is where ZOG’s opportunity costs are elevated to the level of negative returns.

“Frankly, I regard the genes of anyone – whatever the skin pigment – who puts their life on the line against ZOG as way more valuable than the millions of pieces of liberal white garbage – probably the raw majority of brainwashed, Jew-ruined and/or government dependent contemporary white Americans – who will support or fight to maintain the ZOG.”

Although I empathize with your feelings toward brainwashed, government-dependent white urbanites, the enemy of my enemy is not necessarily my friend.  To think so is a logical fallacy and trap commonly employed by jews and their useful idiots to ensnare “hard rightists” of aracialist, libertarian or conservative bent.  Better qualify your statement, for absent ZOG these “friends” may well turn out to be enemies equally, if not more deadlier than ZOG in the long-term.  Furthermore, absent sufficient common ground these “friends” of ours may well remain our enemies even in the face of the ZOG.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Before secession, the ZOG has got to be destroyed and replaced. Otherwise secession will not succeed. Then we’ll see if a predominantly White Republic lets you secede and set up your albino bantustan. I doubt it – I wouldn’t – but we will see.”</p>
<p>Albino.  Albinism is a congenital disorder which has nothing to do with race.  African albinos are not “white people,” as we use the term here.  Surely you understand that?</p>
<p>Bantustan.  Why anybody would call something along the lines of a Swiss commune or canton a “Bantustan” is beyond me.  Not even an Old Amish or Mennonite enclave qualifies as a valid comparison.  So why are you doing it?</p>
<p>Destroying ZOG.  How can we challenge, much less destroy, ZOG without hundreds or thousands of white “Bantustans” at our back?  </p>
<p>Secession.  Secession of the mind first, followed by secession on the ground.  Secession on the ground – vertical secession – occurs in stages.  The first involves the creation of alternate, collaborating social and economic systems on local and regional levels.  The second is political, whereby we acquire civil legitimacy at local and regional levels.  It is at this stage, too, where we begin the process of raising ZOG’s opportunity costs.  The third stage is where ZOG’s opportunity costs are elevated to the level of negative returns.</p>
<p>“Frankly, I regard the genes of anyone – whatever the skin pigment – who puts their life on the line against ZOG as way more valuable than the millions of pieces of liberal white garbage – probably the raw majority of brainwashed, Jew-ruined and/or government dependent contemporary white Americans – who will support or fight to maintain the ZOG.”</p>
<p>Although I empathize with your feelings toward brainwashed, government-dependent white urbanites, the enemy of my enemy is not necessarily my friend.  To think so is a logical fallacy and trap commonly employed by jews and their useful idiots to ensnare “hard rightists” of aracialist, libertarian or conservative bent.  Better qualify your statement, for absent ZOG these “friends” may well turn out to be enemies equally, if not more deadlier than ZOG in the long-term.  Furthermore, absent sufficient common ground these “friends” of ours may well remain our enemies even in the face of the ZOG.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Jefferson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Jefferson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Mar 2010 17:25:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“Before secession, the ZOG has got to be destroyed and replaced. Otherwise secession will not succeed. Then we’ll see if a predominantly White Republic lets you secede and set up your albino bantustan. I doubt it – I wouldn’t – but we will see.” - seadragonconqueror.

Albino.  Albinism is a congenital disorder which has nothing to do with race.  African albinos are not “white people,” as we use the term here.  Surely you understand that?

Bantustan.  Why anybody would call something along the lines of a Swiss commune or canton a “Bantustan” is beyond me.  Not even an Old Amish or Mennonite enclave qualifies as a valid comparison.  So why are you doing it?

Destroying ZOG.  How can we challenge, much less destroy, ZOG without hundreds or thousands of white “Bantustans” at our back?  

Secession.  Secession of the mind first, followed by secession on the ground.  Secession on the ground – vertical secession – occurs in stages.  The first involves the creation of alternate, collaborating social and economic systems on local and regional levels.  The second is political, whereby we acquire civil legitimacy at local and regional levels.  It is at this stage, too, where we begin the process of raising ZOG’s opportunity costs.  The third stage is where ZOG’s opportunity costs are elevated to the level of negative returns.

“Frankly, I regard the genes of anyone – whatever the skin pigment – who puts their life on the line against ZOG as way more valuable than the millions of pieces of liberal white garbage – probably the raw majority of brainwashed, Jew-ruined and/or government dependent contemporary white Americans – who will support or fight to maintain the ZOG.”

Although I empathize with your feelings toward brainwashed, government-dependent white urbanites, the enemy of my enemy is not necessarily my friend.  To think so is a logical fallacy and trap commonly employed by jews and their useful idiots to ensnare “hard rightists” of aracialist, libertarian or conservative bent.  Better qualify your statement, for absent ZOG these “friends” may well turn out to be enemies equally, if not more deadlier than ZOG in the long-term.  Furthermore, absent sufficient common ground these “friends” of ours may well remain our enemies even in the face of the ZOG.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Before secession, the ZOG has got to be destroyed and replaced. Otherwise secession will not succeed. Then we’ll see if a predominantly White Republic lets you secede and set up your albino bantustan. I doubt it – I wouldn’t – but we will see.” &#8211; seadragonconqueror.</p>
<p>Albino.  Albinism is a congenital disorder which has nothing to do with race.  African albinos are not “white people,” as we use the term here.  Surely you understand that?</p>
<p>Bantustan.  Why anybody would call something along the lines of a Swiss commune or canton a “Bantustan” is beyond me.  Not even an Old Amish or Mennonite enclave qualifies as a valid comparison.  So why are you doing it?</p>
<p>Destroying ZOG.  How can we challenge, much less destroy, ZOG without hundreds or thousands of white “Bantustans” at our back?  </p>
<p>Secession.  Secession of the mind first, followed by secession on the ground.  Secession on the ground – vertical secession – occurs in stages.  The first involves the creation of alternate, collaborating social and economic systems on local and regional levels.  The second is political, whereby we acquire civil legitimacy at local and regional levels.  It is at this stage, too, where we begin the process of raising ZOG’s opportunity costs.  The third stage is where ZOG’s opportunity costs are elevated to the level of negative returns.</p>
<p>“Frankly, I regard the genes of anyone – whatever the skin pigment – who puts their life on the line against ZOG as way more valuable than the millions of pieces of liberal white garbage – probably the raw majority of brainwashed, Jew-ruined and/or government dependent contemporary white Americans – who will support or fight to maintain the ZOG.”</p>
<p>Although I empathize with your feelings toward brainwashed, government-dependent white urbanites, the enemy of my enemy is not necessarily my friend.  To think so is a logical fallacy and trap commonly employed by jews and their useful idiots to ensnare “hard rightists” of aracialist, libertarian or conservative bent.  Better qualify your statement, for absent ZOG these “friends” may well turn out to be enemies equally, if not more deadlier than ZOG in the long-term.  Furthermore, absent sufficient common ground these “friends” of ours may well remain our enemies even in the face of the ZOG.</p>
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		<title>By: Steven E. Romer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steven E. Romer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 17:33:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even though I have some real reservations about repartitioning or moving whites to a new homeland (for several reasons already mentioned -- such as it&#039;s not practical, and would take some intense motivation which has been pounded out of peoples heads with life-long brainwashing, etc. etc.). I really appreciated this article and the thought and research that went into it. I am looking forward to seeing the new map/plan. I think this idea needs to be worked out in detail and it needs to be at the ready in case we need it for sure. 

  I 100% agree with the ideas in the article for partition as presented EXCEPT for the idea of orientals mixing with our ethnostate. Certainly we could weather some mixing with them better than with blacks, Mexicans, or Jews, but many studies show that they are very very fundamentally different from us in their temperments and world view--they are on a different path. This has been a special intense area of study of mine for years. IQ is not everything, of course. It is a tool, but it is how you use it that counts. 

Emotions drive thought, and the basic temperments that give us our emotions are basically genetic -- even moreso than IQ. That is why it has been an even MORE taboo topic in our society than IQ. Races (collections of acting individuals from a racial gene pool) see and react and move about the world in different ways which produce different cultures. They form delicate internal patterns -- especially those races that are trying to build something greater, whether a cathedral or the divine knowledge of the universe and our place in it in science. A race is an evolutionary engine of sorts -- going somewhere. We should not let ourselves be carjacked or swindled out of our birthright. Our engine needs maintenence and love to keep going. It is delicate like the finely tuned instruments in a symphony.

    That brings me to the motivations / reasons for wanting to separate and preserve the white European race -- our destiny. When I say destiny, I mean the patterns through time we can identify from the particular temperament and personality of our people. We have 3 things that make us unique in the history of life. 1) directly obtaining, orgainzing, and following objective truth. 2) a concern with freedom and individual rights against corruption. 3) Individualism and the pioneer spirit. There are other features of Europeans that are pretty amazing and unique that Dr. Kevin Macdonald talks about in his book and writings, but I just want to mention these 3 main ideas because they relate to our TRAJECTORY as a race speciating from the other 2 main races. We are going somewhere very very unique as a race -- a place so unique (when left to ourselves) that it is a miracle in the history of life. THIS is the main reason to maintain the integrity of our race and our gene-pool which has such an amazing and creative emerging dynamic.

    Studies of the genetics of the big 3 races of Rushton&#039;s R-K theories (asian, caucasian, African) show that we are splitting off -- IN MOTION in genetic distance away from each other. We are in the sub-species phase of outright speciation. We are BECOMING a new species. we are just being born and starting to move out on our own path like a racial baby seal. We are very vulnerable right now. The splitting is explosive -- amazingly robust and accelerated. We are splitting off from the other 2 races at fully 160 times the rate that chimpanzees split off from the lineage of modern humans approx. 2 million years ago. 

   If anything had happened to our early ancestors, if they had mixed and chose another route or strategy, we would not be here today. We do look and act similar to chimpanzees in many ways, but the splitting we did with chimpanzees was most importantly in our brains, in our ingenuity and insight, in our symbolic languages and writing, etc. Chimpanzees do not have religion or science. They have continued on another path, and have sort of dead-ended with their brains into a different pattern. Other races seem to be going down other paths toward other destinies also when we do not interfere with them and when they are left to themselves. We made choices and they show in our genes. We have voted with our feet, with our blood, and with our sweat and tears over eons of time to be here. We have scaled mountains and conquered the darkness full of fear. We through time and space have chosen this path. People make me chuckle when they try to hide behind statements like &quot;people do not choose their race&quot;. YES THEY DO! the whole issue is that races make DIFFERENT CHOICES. That is what makes them different races! Over hundreds of thousands of years, peoples vision and choices shape who they are -- all the moreso as we go up the evolutionary ladder and see more and KNOW that our choices have lasting impact. All morality is based on this idea that formed races: WHAT IF EVERYONE DID THAT. That applies to dropping gum wrappers, lying, or the formation of genes and our DESTINY. 

   Our European destiny is unique -- I think it is HOLY when I move the model of our trajectory forward in my mind.. (and in my book). Religion and science come from this intense motive for truth we have. Without that, the world is lost. The world cannot afford to lose us. We must save the white race whatever the cost or method. I am confident that we can find solutions like the elegantly worked-out one in this article. However, we cannot underestimate the importance of this. I agree it is NOT about simple personal preference. we need to acknowledge and speak about the larger HOLY path of our destiny. That is why I am here working toward these goals. 

I truly believe, I KNOW that the white race is the figurehead of the trajectory of the entire struggle and saga of all life through time. We have distilled the most basic patterns of the upward struggle of life and embody them directly. We are the awakening life-force itself. We embody the spirit of the life principle directly and we were MEANT to gain control of our genes just like a neborn eventually learns and gains control of its world to survive. We already manipulate our environment and our genes imperfectly, with laws, with our culture, etc. We are the Eugenic ape. It is what we do -- it is why we have our large brains and have harvested so much information in science. We are supposed to use that information to help us survive and reach that place we sense we are going if we do not mix and are not pushed from that path by those who hate us. This knowledge is what makes us human. it is the objective basis for our intense motivation for truth and objective knowledge. We chose truth over corruption and old lower base drives and motives. Religions and science both are coming together finally. This is the most important time ever in the history of the world. This is it. We MUST overcome this obstacle, we must win this struggle or die -- lose everything that most deeply motivates us and fills us with light, hope, and life. THAT reason enough for you?

  There are other ways we could partition the races -- genetic means. I like the idea of sterility exchanges -- money or priviledge for voluntary sterilization. All the aims we seek could be implemented by setting patterns at work in society so that choices people make save us and keep us on the upward path (like we were doing before Jews intervened with their selfish blind desires which are destroying us utterly). My son favors the idea of genetic engineering to keep the big 3 races from being able to interbreed -- negating the effects of easy world-travel and mixing that is the consequence of both our technologies and the media we invented being misused by parties not working toward our destiny. There are other ways to do this, maybe some combination of these would work best along with temporary partitions and incentives etc. 

   Bottom line is that we can save our race peacefully, humanely, and definitely. We need to freely be able to do research, to lift ourselves up with Eugenics like we were in EVERY white nation before WW2 was foisted upon us and the Jews gained the upper hand. Once we were back on track to our destiny, I would not give the Jews another thought except as an excellent example of just how opposite 2 peoples of the world can see life and the cruelty of mixing with them. We would focus on our race and its mission -- the new species we are becoming. Upward and onward.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even though I have some real reservations about repartitioning or moving whites to a new homeland (for several reasons already mentioned &#8212; such as it&#8217;s not practical, and would take some intense motivation which has been pounded out of peoples heads with life-long brainwashing, etc. etc.). I really appreciated this article and the thought and research that went into it. I am looking forward to seeing the new map/plan. I think this idea needs to be worked out in detail and it needs to be at the ready in case we need it for sure. </p>
<p>  I 100% agree with the ideas in the article for partition as presented EXCEPT for the idea of orientals mixing with our ethnostate. Certainly we could weather some mixing with them better than with blacks, Mexicans, or Jews, but many studies show that they are very very fundamentally different from us in their temperments and world view&#8211;they are on a different path. This has been a special intense area of study of mine for years. IQ is not everything, of course. It is a tool, but it is how you use it that counts. </p>
<p>Emotions drive thought, and the basic temperments that give us our emotions are basically genetic &#8212; even moreso than IQ. That is why it has been an even MORE taboo topic in our society than IQ. Races (collections of acting individuals from a racial gene pool) see and react and move about the world in different ways which produce different cultures. They form delicate internal patterns &#8212; especially those races that are trying to build something greater, whether a cathedral or the divine knowledge of the universe and our place in it in science. A race is an evolutionary engine of sorts &#8212; going somewhere. We should not let ourselves be carjacked or swindled out of our birthright. Our engine needs maintenence and love to keep going. It is delicate like the finely tuned instruments in a symphony.</p>
<p>    That brings me to the motivations / reasons for wanting to separate and preserve the white European race &#8212; our destiny. When I say destiny, I mean the patterns through time we can identify from the particular temperament and personality of our people. We have 3 things that make us unique in the history of life. 1) directly obtaining, orgainzing, and following objective truth. 2) a concern with freedom and individual rights against corruption. 3) Individualism and the pioneer spirit. There are other features of Europeans that are pretty amazing and unique that Dr. Kevin Macdonald talks about in his book and writings, but I just want to mention these 3 main ideas because they relate to our TRAJECTORY as a race speciating from the other 2 main races. We are going somewhere very very unique as a race &#8212; a place so unique (when left to ourselves) that it is a miracle in the history of life. THIS is the main reason to maintain the integrity of our race and our gene-pool which has such an amazing and creative emerging dynamic.</p>
<p>    Studies of the genetics of the big 3 races of Rushton&#8217;s R-K theories (asian, caucasian, African) show that we are splitting off &#8212; IN MOTION in genetic distance away from each other. We are in the sub-species phase of outright speciation. We are BECOMING a new species. we are just being born and starting to move out on our own path like a racial baby seal. We are very vulnerable right now. The splitting is explosive &#8212; amazingly robust and accelerated. We are splitting off from the other 2 races at fully 160 times the rate that chimpanzees split off from the lineage of modern humans approx. 2 million years ago. </p>
<p>   If anything had happened to our early ancestors, if they had mixed and chose another route or strategy, we would not be here today. We do look and act similar to chimpanzees in many ways, but the splitting we did with chimpanzees was most importantly in our brains, in our ingenuity and insight, in our symbolic languages and writing, etc. Chimpanzees do not have religion or science. They have continued on another path, and have sort of dead-ended with their brains into a different pattern. Other races seem to be going down other paths toward other destinies also when we do not interfere with them and when they are left to themselves. We made choices and they show in our genes. We have voted with our feet, with our blood, and with our sweat and tears over eons of time to be here. We have scaled mountains and conquered the darkness full of fear. We through time and space have chosen this path. People make me chuckle when they try to hide behind statements like &#8220;people do not choose their race&#8221;. YES THEY DO! the whole issue is that races make DIFFERENT CHOICES. That is what makes them different races! Over hundreds of thousands of years, peoples vision and choices shape who they are &#8212; all the moreso as we go up the evolutionary ladder and see more and KNOW that our choices have lasting impact. All morality is based on this idea that formed races: WHAT IF EVERYONE DID THAT. That applies to dropping gum wrappers, lying, or the formation of genes and our DESTINY. </p>
<p>   Our European destiny is unique &#8212; I think it is HOLY when I move the model of our trajectory forward in my mind.. (and in my book). Religion and science come from this intense motive for truth we have. Without that, the world is lost. The world cannot afford to lose us. We must save the white race whatever the cost or method. I am confident that we can find solutions like the elegantly worked-out one in this article. However, we cannot underestimate the importance of this. I agree it is NOT about simple personal preference. we need to acknowledge and speak about the larger HOLY path of our destiny. That is why I am here working toward these goals. </p>
<p>I truly believe, I KNOW that the white race is the figurehead of the trajectory of the entire struggle and saga of all life through time. We have distilled the most basic patterns of the upward struggle of life and embody them directly. We are the awakening life-force itself. We embody the spirit of the life principle directly and we were MEANT to gain control of our genes just like a neborn eventually learns and gains control of its world to survive. We already manipulate our environment and our genes imperfectly, with laws, with our culture, etc. We are the Eugenic ape. It is what we do &#8212; it is why we have our large brains and have harvested so much information in science. We are supposed to use that information to help us survive and reach that place we sense we are going if we do not mix and are not pushed from that path by those who hate us. This knowledge is what makes us human. it is the objective basis for our intense motivation for truth and objective knowledge. We chose truth over corruption and old lower base drives and motives. Religions and science both are coming together finally. This is the most important time ever in the history of the world. This is it. We MUST overcome this obstacle, we must win this struggle or die &#8212; lose everything that most deeply motivates us and fills us with light, hope, and life. THAT reason enough for you?</p>
<p>  There are other ways we could partition the races &#8212; genetic means. I like the idea of sterility exchanges &#8212; money or priviledge for voluntary sterilization. All the aims we seek could be implemented by setting patterns at work in society so that choices people make save us and keep us on the upward path (like we were doing before Jews intervened with their selfish blind desires which are destroying us utterly). My son favors the idea of genetic engineering to keep the big 3 races from being able to interbreed &#8212; negating the effects of easy world-travel and mixing that is the consequence of both our technologies and the media we invented being misused by parties not working toward our destiny. There are other ways to do this, maybe some combination of these would work best along with temporary partitions and incentives etc. </p>
<p>   Bottom line is that we can save our race peacefully, humanely, and definitely. We need to freely be able to do research, to lift ourselves up with Eugenics like we were in EVERY white nation before WW2 was foisted upon us and the Jews gained the upper hand. Once we were back on track to our destiny, I would not give the Jews another thought except as an excellent example of just how opposite 2 peoples of the world can see life and the cruelty of mixing with them. We would focus on our race and its mission &#8212; the new species we are becoming. Upward and onward.</p>
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		<title>By: seadragonconquerer</title>
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		<dc:creator>seadragonconquerer</dc:creator>
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		<description>reply to MGLS: yes, I read McCulloch&#039;s point 13, and all the others. He&#039;s got it wrong. Before secession, the ZOG has got to be destroyed and replaced. Otherwise secession will not succeed. Then we&#039;ll see if a predominantly White Republic lets you secede and set up your albino bantustan.  I doubt it - I wouldn&#039;t - but we will see. Frankly, I regard the genes of anyone - whatever the skin pigment - who puts their life on the line against ZOG as way more valuable than the millions of pieces of liberal white garbage - probably the raw  majority of brainwashed, Jew-ruined and/or government dependent contemporary white Americans - who will support or fight to maintain the ZOG.  I call this Operational Nationalism. It, not White Nationalism alone, will be the wave of the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>reply to MGLS: yes, I read McCulloch&#8217;s point 13, and all the others. He&#8217;s got it wrong. Before secession, the ZOG has got to be destroyed and replaced. Otherwise secession will not succeed. Then we&#8217;ll see if a predominantly White Republic lets you secede and set up your albino bantustan.  I doubt it &#8211; I wouldn&#8217;t &#8211; but we will see. Frankly, I regard the genes of anyone &#8211; whatever the skin pigment &#8211; who puts their life on the line against ZOG as way more valuable than the millions of pieces of liberal white garbage &#8211; probably the raw  majority of brainwashed, Jew-ruined and/or government dependent contemporary white Americans &#8211; who will support or fight to maintain the ZOG.  I call this Operational Nationalism. It, not White Nationalism alone, will be the wave of the future.</p>
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		<title>By: seadragonconquerer</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 04:52:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>reply to &quot;Anon preferred&quot;: &quot;why not view partition as the preliminary step to complete reconquest?&quot; Because this puts the cart before the horse. See, in this connection, my post to Tony Glaister&#039;s &quot;Considering Secession,&quot; esp. re the Confederacy&#039;s failure . . . to successfully secede. When I talk about taking down the ZOG and reconstituting a White Republic, incidentally, I am not referencing the neo-cons and their &quot;credential nation&quot; scam. This is going to be Operational Nationalism (as in Robert Heinlein, STARSHIP TROOPERS): those who fight on the right side, ours -- and I don&#039;t care what their race is -- get citizenship. Those who don&#039;t: goodbye, one way or the other.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>reply to &#8220;Anon preferred&#8221;: &#8220;why not view partition as the preliminary step to complete reconquest?&#8221; Because this puts the cart before the horse. See, in this connection, my post to Tony Glaister&#8217;s &#8220;Considering Secession,&#8221; esp. re the Confederacy&#8217;s failure . . . to successfully secede. When I talk about taking down the ZOG and reconstituting a White Republic, incidentally, I am not referencing the neo-cons and their &#8220;credential nation&#8221; scam. This is going to be Operational Nationalism (as in Robert Heinlein, STARSHIP TROOPERS): those who fight on the right side, ours &#8212; and I don&#8217;t care what their race is &#8212; get citizenship. Those who don&#8217;t: goodbye, one way or the other.</p>
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		<title>By: MGLS</title>
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		<dc:creator>MGLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 04:12:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As usual, Mr. McCulloch absolutely hit the nail on the head in this essay.  In the present day, nobody writes as incisively on race as does Richard McCulloch.  I hope &lt;em&gt;TOQ&lt;/em&gt; publishes more of his essays.

I am dismayed by how many pro-white advocates, as in the recent debates at Occidental Dissent, do not understand the necessity of separation and partition.  Calls for a white cultural &quot;reconquest&quot; of a multiracial America, as Sam Francis advocated, are woefully misguided.  As McCulloch says, immigration restrictions, segregation, and white supremacism cannot save us.  Only separation can.  Convincing our fellow racialists of the necessity of separation and ethnostates is of the utmost importance.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Posted by seadragonconquerer:

If some blacks, Latinos, Jews, and others who are not white wish to fight on our side during the coming violent struggle, that’s all good: God Knows, millions of brainwashed white multiculturalists are going to be fighting on the other side. &lt;/blockquote&gt; 

seadragonconquerer, did you even read this essay?  Based on your comment, I doubt it.  Point number 13 (&quot;Base Partition on Race Alone&quot;) in particular refutes what you advocate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As usual, Mr. McCulloch absolutely hit the nail on the head in this essay.  In the present day, nobody writes as incisively on race as does Richard McCulloch.  I hope <em>TOQ</em> publishes more of his essays.</p>
<p>I am dismayed by how many pro-white advocates, as in the recent debates at Occidental Dissent, do not understand the necessity of separation and partition.  Calls for a white cultural &#8220;reconquest&#8221; of a multiracial America, as Sam Francis advocated, are woefully misguided.  As McCulloch says, immigration restrictions, segregation, and white supremacism cannot save us.  Only separation can.  Convincing our fellow racialists of the necessity of separation and ethnostates is of the utmost importance.</p>
<blockquote><p>Posted by seadragonconquerer:</p>
<p>If some blacks, Latinos, Jews, and others who are not white wish to fight on our side during the coming violent struggle, that’s all good: God Knows, millions of brainwashed white multiculturalists are going to be fighting on the other side. </p></blockquote>
<p>seadragonconquerer, did you even read this essay?  Based on your comment, I doubt it.  Point number 13 (&#8221;Base Partition on Race Alone&#8221;) in particular refutes what you advocate.</p>
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		<title>By: seadragonconquerer</title>
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		<dc:creator>seadragonconquerer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 01:58:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Sean&quot;? Not he. As for the &quot;necessary cruelties&quot;, there are hundreds of thousands of armed hard-rightists in this country right now more than willing - in fact, eager - to do that which will be necessary to take back what the ZOG and its ethnic hirelings have stolen from us: a nation.  And for a fact, after the Crash, ZOG will force the issue via martial law and gun confiscation.  Then, we will either rise up and fight, or die.  Insofar as blacks, browns, Jews join the struggle, they can stay. Those who fight on the other side, including multiculturalist whites....will leave. One way or the other.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Sean&#8221;? Not he. As for the &#8220;necessary cruelties&#8221;, there are hundreds of thousands of armed hard-rightists in this country right now more than willing &#8211; in fact, eager &#8211; to do that which will be necessary to take back what the ZOG and its ethnic hirelings have stolen from us: a nation.  And for a fact, after the Crash, ZOG will force the issue via martial law and gun confiscation.  Then, we will either rise up and fight, or die.  Insofar as blacks, browns, Jews join the struggle, they can stay. Those who fight on the other side, including multiculturalist whites&#8230;.will leave. One way or the other.</p>
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		<title>By: Chechar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chechar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 22:39:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;@ “What do YOU propose to do with the 100 million nonwhites within US borders?”&lt;/em&gt;

A nationalist State would allow those hundred million to buy food, take the bus or any commercial exchange within the borders only with an ID card demonstrating they have already submitted themselves to the State’s sterilization program. Non whites that want to reproduce would have to leave the white nation.

(Take note that I am arriving at this drastic conclusion in Mexico City only after decades of witnessing how a &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Army_ant&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Marabunta&lt;/a&gt; of semi-Indians bred profusely creating an army that destroyed the soul of my native neighborhood, which in the past was composed mostly by Iberian whites.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>@ “What do YOU propose to do with the 100 million nonwhites within US borders?”</em></p>
<p>A nationalist State would allow those hundred million to buy food, take the bus or any commercial exchange within the borders only with an ID card demonstrating they have already submitted themselves to the State’s sterilization program. Non whites that want to reproduce would have to leave the white nation.</p>
<p>(Take note that I am arriving at this drastic conclusion in Mexico City only after decades of witnessing how a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Army_ant" rel="nofollow">Marabunta</a> of semi-Indians bred profusely creating an army that destroyed the soul of my native neighborhood, which in the past was composed mostly by Iberian whites.)</p>
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