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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Nov 2011 03:18:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Hart’s first three reasons are individual level concerns, not racial level concerns. They are based on individual interests, not the interests and well-being of the race, such as its independence, its possession of its ancestral lands, and even its continued existence and preservation. &quot;

Oh, how lovely.  After all, we can&#039;t have people being concerned about things that actually matter, can we?  Interestingly enough, he didn&#039;t explain why &quot;individual level concerns&quot; are less important then abstract concepts like &quot;racial preservation&quot; or &quot;racial interests&quot;.  The former actually have points, the latter on their own, have nothing,

What I learned from this article is that the only thing the author cares about is superficial physical characteristics, and that he is willing to destroy America in order to tailor it to his personal preferences.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Hart’s first three reasons are individual level concerns, not racial level concerns. They are based on individual interests, not the interests and well-being of the race, such as its independence, its possession of its ancestral lands, and even its continued existence and preservation. &#8221;</p>
<p>Oh, how lovely.  After all, we can&#8217;t have people being concerned about things that actually matter, can we?  Interestingly enough, he didn&#8217;t explain why &#8220;individual level concerns&#8221; are less important then abstract concepts like &#8220;racial preservation&#8221; or &#8220;racial interests&#8221;.  The former actually have points, the latter on their own, have nothing,</p>
<p>What I learned from this article is that the only thing the author cares about is superficial physical characteristics, and that he is willing to destroy America in order to tailor it to his personal preferences.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Jefferson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Jefferson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2010 03:27:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“TJ thinks that skin pigment matters more than a man’s willingness to pick up a weapon and stand by your side at at the next Concord Bridge. We’ll just see about that.”

If we tell them they are dying for a white nation, why should we hesitate to use the traitors and self-haters of other races at the next Concord Bridge? Far more honest than the likes of Compassionate Fascist, who would say to them that the races of man are as interchangeable as clean underwear before wrapping them in the Stars &amp; Stripes, waving the Constitution of the old nation&#039;s (Occidental) Founders in their face, and sending them off to die in order to protect his, uh, “freedom” (privileges).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“TJ thinks that skin pigment matters more than a man’s willingness to pick up a weapon and stand by your side at at the next Concord Bridge. We’ll just see about that.”</p>
<p>If we tell them they are dying for a white nation, why should we hesitate to use the traitors and self-haters of other races at the next Concord Bridge? Far more honest than the likes of Compassionate Fascist, who would say to them that the races of man are as interchangeable as clean underwear before wrapping them in the Stars &amp; Stripes, waving the Constitution of the old nation&#8217;s (Occidental) Founders in their face, and sending them off to die in order to protect his, uh, “freedom” (privileges).</p>
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		<title>By: CompassionateFascist</title>
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		<dc:creator>CompassionateFascist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2010 02:55:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TJ thinks that skin pigment matters more than a man&#039;s willingness to pick up a weapon and stand by your side at at the next Concord Bridge. We&#039;ll just see about that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TJ thinks that skin pigment matters more than a man&#8217;s willingness to pick up a weapon and stand by your side at at the next Concord Bridge. We&#8217;ll just see about that.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Jefferson</title>
		<link>http://www.toqonline.com/blog/separate-or-die/comment-page-1/#comment-7030</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Jefferson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Mar 2010 17:26:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“Before secession, the ZOG has got to be destroyed and replaced. Otherwise secession will not succeed. Then we’ll see if a predominantly White Republic lets you secede and set up your albino bantustan. I doubt it – I wouldn’t – but we will see.”

Albino.  Albinism is a congenital disorder which has nothing to do with race.  African albinos are not “white people,” as we use the term here.  Surely you understand that?

Bantustan.  Why anybody would call something along the lines of a Swiss commune or canton a “Bantustan” is beyond me.  Not even an Old Amish or Mennonite enclave qualifies as a valid comparison.  So why are you doing it?

Destroying ZOG.  How can we challenge, much less destroy, ZOG without hundreds or thousands of white “Bantustans” at our back?  

Secession.  Secession of the mind first, followed by secession on the ground.  Secession on the ground – vertical secession – occurs in stages.  The first involves the creation of alternate, collaborating social and economic systems on local and regional levels.  The second is political, whereby we acquire civil legitimacy at local and regional levels.  It is at this stage, too, where we begin the process of raising ZOG’s opportunity costs.  The third stage is where ZOG’s opportunity costs are elevated to the level of negative returns.

“Frankly, I regard the genes of anyone – whatever the skin pigment – who puts their life on the line against ZOG as way more valuable than the millions of pieces of liberal white garbage – probably the raw majority of brainwashed, Jew-ruined and/or government dependent contemporary white Americans – who will support or fight to maintain the ZOG.”

Although I empathize with your feelings toward brainwashed, government-dependent white urbanites, the enemy of my enemy is not necessarily my friend.  To think so is a logical fallacy and trap commonly employed by jews and their useful idiots to ensnare “hard rightists” of aracialist, libertarian or conservative bent.  Better qualify your statement, for absent ZOG these “friends” may well turn out to be enemies equally, if not more deadlier than ZOG in the long-term.  Furthermore, absent sufficient common ground these “friends” of ours may well remain our enemies even in the face of the ZOG.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Before secession, the ZOG has got to be destroyed and replaced. Otherwise secession will not succeed. Then we’ll see if a predominantly White Republic lets you secede and set up your albino bantustan. I doubt it – I wouldn’t – but we will see.”</p>
<p>Albino.  Albinism is a congenital disorder which has nothing to do with race.  African albinos are not “white people,” as we use the term here.  Surely you understand that?</p>
<p>Bantustan.  Why anybody would call something along the lines of a Swiss commune or canton a “Bantustan” is beyond me.  Not even an Old Amish or Mennonite enclave qualifies as a valid comparison.  So why are you doing it?</p>
<p>Destroying ZOG.  How can we challenge, much less destroy, ZOG without hundreds or thousands of white “Bantustans” at our back?  </p>
<p>Secession.  Secession of the mind first, followed by secession on the ground.  Secession on the ground – vertical secession – occurs in stages.  The first involves the creation of alternate, collaborating social and economic systems on local and regional levels.  The second is political, whereby we acquire civil legitimacy at local and regional levels.  It is at this stage, too, where we begin the process of raising ZOG’s opportunity costs.  The third stage is where ZOG’s opportunity costs are elevated to the level of negative returns.</p>
<p>“Frankly, I regard the genes of anyone – whatever the skin pigment – who puts their life on the line against ZOG as way more valuable than the millions of pieces of liberal white garbage – probably the raw majority of brainwashed, Jew-ruined and/or government dependent contemporary white Americans – who will support or fight to maintain the ZOG.”</p>
<p>Although I empathize with your feelings toward brainwashed, government-dependent white urbanites, the enemy of my enemy is not necessarily my friend.  To think so is a logical fallacy and trap commonly employed by jews and their useful idiots to ensnare “hard rightists” of aracialist, libertarian or conservative bent.  Better qualify your statement, for absent ZOG these “friends” may well turn out to be enemies equally, if not more deadlier than ZOG in the long-term.  Furthermore, absent sufficient common ground these “friends” of ours may well remain our enemies even in the face of the ZOG.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Jefferson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Jefferson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Mar 2010 17:25:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“Before secession, the ZOG has got to be destroyed and replaced. Otherwise secession will not succeed. Then we’ll see if a predominantly White Republic lets you secede and set up your albino bantustan. I doubt it – I wouldn’t – but we will see.” - seadragonconqueror.

Albino.  Albinism is a congenital disorder which has nothing to do with race.  African albinos are not “white people,” as we use the term here.  Surely you understand that?

Bantustan.  Why anybody would call something along the lines of a Swiss commune or canton a “Bantustan” is beyond me.  Not even an Old Amish or Mennonite enclave qualifies as a valid comparison.  So why are you doing it?

Destroying ZOG.  How can we challenge, much less destroy, ZOG without hundreds or thousands of white “Bantustans” at our back?  

Secession.  Secession of the mind first, followed by secession on the ground.  Secession on the ground – vertical secession – occurs in stages.  The first involves the creation of alternate, collaborating social and economic systems on local and regional levels.  The second is political, whereby we acquire civil legitimacy at local and regional levels.  It is at this stage, too, where we begin the process of raising ZOG’s opportunity costs.  The third stage is where ZOG’s opportunity costs are elevated to the level of negative returns.

“Frankly, I regard the genes of anyone – whatever the skin pigment – who puts their life on the line against ZOG as way more valuable than the millions of pieces of liberal white garbage – probably the raw majority of brainwashed, Jew-ruined and/or government dependent contemporary white Americans – who will support or fight to maintain the ZOG.”

Although I empathize with your feelings toward brainwashed, government-dependent white urbanites, the enemy of my enemy is not necessarily my friend.  To think so is a logical fallacy and trap commonly employed by jews and their useful idiots to ensnare “hard rightists” of aracialist, libertarian or conservative bent.  Better qualify your statement, for absent ZOG these “friends” may well turn out to be enemies equally, if not more deadlier than ZOG in the long-term.  Furthermore, absent sufficient common ground these “friends” of ours may well remain our enemies even in the face of the ZOG.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Before secession, the ZOG has got to be destroyed and replaced. Otherwise secession will not succeed. Then we’ll see if a predominantly White Republic lets you secede and set up your albino bantustan. I doubt it – I wouldn’t – but we will see.” &#8211; seadragonconqueror.</p>
<p>Albino.  Albinism is a congenital disorder which has nothing to do with race.  African albinos are not “white people,” as we use the term here.  Surely you understand that?</p>
<p>Bantustan.  Why anybody would call something along the lines of a Swiss commune or canton a “Bantustan” is beyond me.  Not even an Old Amish or Mennonite enclave qualifies as a valid comparison.  So why are you doing it?</p>
<p>Destroying ZOG.  How can we challenge, much less destroy, ZOG without hundreds or thousands of white “Bantustans” at our back?  </p>
<p>Secession.  Secession of the mind first, followed by secession on the ground.  Secession on the ground – vertical secession – occurs in stages.  The first involves the creation of alternate, collaborating social and economic systems on local and regional levels.  The second is political, whereby we acquire civil legitimacy at local and regional levels.  It is at this stage, too, where we begin the process of raising ZOG’s opportunity costs.  The third stage is where ZOG’s opportunity costs are elevated to the level of negative returns.</p>
<p>“Frankly, I regard the genes of anyone – whatever the skin pigment – who puts their life on the line against ZOG as way more valuable than the millions of pieces of liberal white garbage – probably the raw majority of brainwashed, Jew-ruined and/or government dependent contemporary white Americans – who will support or fight to maintain the ZOG.”</p>
<p>Although I empathize with your feelings toward brainwashed, government-dependent white urbanites, the enemy of my enemy is not necessarily my friend.  To think so is a logical fallacy and trap commonly employed by jews and their useful idiots to ensnare “hard rightists” of aracialist, libertarian or conservative bent.  Better qualify your statement, for absent ZOG these “friends” may well turn out to be enemies equally, if not more deadlier than ZOG in the long-term.  Furthermore, absent sufficient common ground these “friends” of ours may well remain our enemies even in the face of the ZOG.</p>
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		<title>By: Steven E. Romer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steven E. Romer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 17:33:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even though I have some real reservations about repartitioning or moving whites to a new homeland (for several reasons already mentioned -- such as it&#039;s not practical, and would take some intense motivation which has been pounded out of peoples heads with life-long brainwashing, etc. etc.). I really appreciated this article and the thought and research that went into it. I am looking forward to seeing the new map/plan. I think this idea needs to be worked out in detail and it needs to be at the ready in case we need it for sure. 

  I 100% agree with the ideas in the article for partition as presented EXCEPT for the idea of orientals mixing with our ethnostate. Certainly we could weather some mixing with them better than with blacks, Mexicans, or Jews, but many studies show that they are very very fundamentally different from us in their temperments and world view--they are on a different path. This has been a special intense area of study of mine for years. IQ is not everything, of course. It is a tool, but it is how you use it that counts. 

Emotions drive thought, and the basic temperments that give us our emotions are basically genetic -- even moreso than IQ. That is why it has been an even MORE taboo topic in our society than IQ. Races (collections of acting individuals from a racial gene pool) see and react and move about the world in different ways which produce different cultures. They form delicate internal patterns -- especially those races that are trying to build something greater, whether a cathedral or the divine knowledge of the universe and our place in it in science. A race is an evolutionary engine of sorts -- going somewhere. We should not let ourselves be carjacked or swindled out of our birthright. Our engine needs maintenence and love to keep going. It is delicate like the finely tuned instruments in a symphony.

    That brings me to the motivations / reasons for wanting to separate and preserve the white European race -- our destiny. When I say destiny, I mean the patterns through time we can identify from the particular temperament and personality of our people. We have 3 things that make us unique in the history of life. 1) directly obtaining, orgainzing, and following objective truth. 2) a concern with freedom and individual rights against corruption. 3) Individualism and the pioneer spirit. There are other features of Europeans that are pretty amazing and unique that Dr. Kevin Macdonald talks about in his book and writings, but I just want to mention these 3 main ideas because they relate to our TRAJECTORY as a race speciating from the other 2 main races. We are going somewhere very very unique as a race -- a place so unique (when left to ourselves) that it is a miracle in the history of life. THIS is the main reason to maintain the integrity of our race and our gene-pool which has such an amazing and creative emerging dynamic.

    Studies of the genetics of the big 3 races of Rushton&#039;s R-K theories (asian, caucasian, African) show that we are splitting off -- IN MOTION in genetic distance away from each other. We are in the sub-species phase of outright speciation. We are BECOMING a new species. we are just being born and starting to move out on our own path like a racial baby seal. We are very vulnerable right now. The splitting is explosive -- amazingly robust and accelerated. We are splitting off from the other 2 races at fully 160 times the rate that chimpanzees split off from the lineage of modern humans approx. 2 million years ago. 

   If anything had happened to our early ancestors, if they had mixed and chose another route or strategy, we would not be here today. We do look and act similar to chimpanzees in many ways, but the splitting we did with chimpanzees was most importantly in our brains, in our ingenuity and insight, in our symbolic languages and writing, etc. Chimpanzees do not have religion or science. They have continued on another path, and have sort of dead-ended with their brains into a different pattern. Other races seem to be going down other paths toward other destinies also when we do not interfere with them and when they are left to themselves. We made choices and they show in our genes. We have voted with our feet, with our blood, and with our sweat and tears over eons of time to be here. We have scaled mountains and conquered the darkness full of fear. We through time and space have chosen this path. People make me chuckle when they try to hide behind statements like &quot;people do not choose their race&quot;. YES THEY DO! the whole issue is that races make DIFFERENT CHOICES. That is what makes them different races! Over hundreds of thousands of years, peoples vision and choices shape who they are -- all the moreso as we go up the evolutionary ladder and see more and KNOW that our choices have lasting impact. All morality is based on this idea that formed races: WHAT IF EVERYONE DID THAT. That applies to dropping gum wrappers, lying, or the formation of genes and our DESTINY. 

   Our European destiny is unique -- I think it is HOLY when I move the model of our trajectory forward in my mind.. (and in my book). Religion and science come from this intense motive for truth we have. Without that, the world is lost. The world cannot afford to lose us. We must save the white race whatever the cost or method. I am confident that we can find solutions like the elegantly worked-out one in this article. However, we cannot underestimate the importance of this. I agree it is NOT about simple personal preference. we need to acknowledge and speak about the larger HOLY path of our destiny. That is why I am here working toward these goals. 

I truly believe, I KNOW that the white race is the figurehead of the trajectory of the entire struggle and saga of all life through time. We have distilled the most basic patterns of the upward struggle of life and embody them directly. We are the awakening life-force itself. We embody the spirit of the life principle directly and we were MEANT to gain control of our genes just like a neborn eventually learns and gains control of its world to survive. We already manipulate our environment and our genes imperfectly, with laws, with our culture, etc. We are the Eugenic ape. It is what we do -- it is why we have our large brains and have harvested so much information in science. We are supposed to use that information to help us survive and reach that place we sense we are going if we do not mix and are not pushed from that path by those who hate us. This knowledge is what makes us human. it is the objective basis for our intense motivation for truth and objective knowledge. We chose truth over corruption and old lower base drives and motives. Religions and science both are coming together finally. This is the most important time ever in the history of the world. This is it. We MUST overcome this obstacle, we must win this struggle or die -- lose everything that most deeply motivates us and fills us with light, hope, and life. THAT reason enough for you?

  There are other ways we could partition the races -- genetic means. I like the idea of sterility exchanges -- money or priviledge for voluntary sterilization. All the aims we seek could be implemented by setting patterns at work in society so that choices people make save us and keep us on the upward path (like we were doing before Jews intervened with their selfish blind desires which are destroying us utterly). My son favors the idea of genetic engineering to keep the big 3 races from being able to interbreed -- negating the effects of easy world-travel and mixing that is the consequence of both our technologies and the media we invented being misused by parties not working toward our destiny. There are other ways to do this, maybe some combination of these would work best along with temporary partitions and incentives etc. 

   Bottom line is that we can save our race peacefully, humanely, and definitely. We need to freely be able to do research, to lift ourselves up with Eugenics like we were in EVERY white nation before WW2 was foisted upon us and the Jews gained the upper hand. Once we were back on track to our destiny, I would not give the Jews another thought except as an excellent example of just how opposite 2 peoples of the world can see life and the cruelty of mixing with them. We would focus on our race and its mission -- the new species we are becoming. Upward and onward.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even though I have some real reservations about repartitioning or moving whites to a new homeland (for several reasons already mentioned &#8212; such as it&#8217;s not practical, and would take some intense motivation which has been pounded out of peoples heads with life-long brainwashing, etc. etc.). I really appreciated this article and the thought and research that went into it. I am looking forward to seeing the new map/plan. I think this idea needs to be worked out in detail and it needs to be at the ready in case we need it for sure. </p>
<p>  I 100% agree with the ideas in the article for partition as presented EXCEPT for the idea of orientals mixing with our ethnostate. Certainly we could weather some mixing with them better than with blacks, Mexicans, or Jews, but many studies show that they are very very fundamentally different from us in their temperments and world view&#8211;they are on a different path. This has been a special intense area of study of mine for years. IQ is not everything, of course. It is a tool, but it is how you use it that counts. </p>
<p>Emotions drive thought, and the basic temperments that give us our emotions are basically genetic &#8212; even moreso than IQ. That is why it has been an even MORE taboo topic in our society than IQ. Races (collections of acting individuals from a racial gene pool) see and react and move about the world in different ways which produce different cultures. They form delicate internal patterns &#8212; especially those races that are trying to build something greater, whether a cathedral or the divine knowledge of the universe and our place in it in science. A race is an evolutionary engine of sorts &#8212; going somewhere. We should not let ourselves be carjacked or swindled out of our birthright. Our engine needs maintenence and love to keep going. It is delicate like the finely tuned instruments in a symphony.</p>
<p>    That brings me to the motivations / reasons for wanting to separate and preserve the white European race &#8212; our destiny. When I say destiny, I mean the patterns through time we can identify from the particular temperament and personality of our people. We have 3 things that make us unique in the history of life. 1) directly obtaining, orgainzing, and following objective truth. 2) a concern with freedom and individual rights against corruption. 3) Individualism and the pioneer spirit. There are other features of Europeans that are pretty amazing and unique that Dr. Kevin Macdonald talks about in his book and writings, but I just want to mention these 3 main ideas because they relate to our TRAJECTORY as a race speciating from the other 2 main races. We are going somewhere very very unique as a race &#8212; a place so unique (when left to ourselves) that it is a miracle in the history of life. THIS is the main reason to maintain the integrity of our race and our gene-pool which has such an amazing and creative emerging dynamic.</p>
<p>    Studies of the genetics of the big 3 races of Rushton&#8217;s R-K theories (asian, caucasian, African) show that we are splitting off &#8212; IN MOTION in genetic distance away from each other. We are in the sub-species phase of outright speciation. We are BECOMING a new species. we are just being born and starting to move out on our own path like a racial baby seal. We are very vulnerable right now. The splitting is explosive &#8212; amazingly robust and accelerated. We are splitting off from the other 2 races at fully 160 times the rate that chimpanzees split off from the lineage of modern humans approx. 2 million years ago. </p>
<p>   If anything had happened to our early ancestors, if they had mixed and chose another route or strategy, we would not be here today. We do look and act similar to chimpanzees in many ways, but the splitting we did with chimpanzees was most importantly in our brains, in our ingenuity and insight, in our symbolic languages and writing, etc. Chimpanzees do not have religion or science. They have continued on another path, and have sort of dead-ended with their brains into a different pattern. Other races seem to be going down other paths toward other destinies also when we do not interfere with them and when they are left to themselves. We made choices and they show in our genes. We have voted with our feet, with our blood, and with our sweat and tears over eons of time to be here. We have scaled mountains and conquered the darkness full of fear. We through time and space have chosen this path. People make me chuckle when they try to hide behind statements like &#8220;people do not choose their race&#8221;. YES THEY DO! the whole issue is that races make DIFFERENT CHOICES. That is what makes them different races! Over hundreds of thousands of years, peoples vision and choices shape who they are &#8212; all the moreso as we go up the evolutionary ladder and see more and KNOW that our choices have lasting impact. All morality is based on this idea that formed races: WHAT IF EVERYONE DID THAT. That applies to dropping gum wrappers, lying, or the formation of genes and our DESTINY. </p>
<p>   Our European destiny is unique &#8212; I think it is HOLY when I move the model of our trajectory forward in my mind.. (and in my book). Religion and science come from this intense motive for truth we have. Without that, the world is lost. The world cannot afford to lose us. We must save the white race whatever the cost or method. I am confident that we can find solutions like the elegantly worked-out one in this article. However, we cannot underestimate the importance of this. I agree it is NOT about simple personal preference. we need to acknowledge and speak about the larger HOLY path of our destiny. That is why I am here working toward these goals. </p>
<p>I truly believe, I KNOW that the white race is the figurehead of the trajectory of the entire struggle and saga of all life through time. We have distilled the most basic patterns of the upward struggle of life and embody them directly. We are the awakening life-force itself. We embody the spirit of the life principle directly and we were MEANT to gain control of our genes just like a neborn eventually learns and gains control of its world to survive. We already manipulate our environment and our genes imperfectly, with laws, with our culture, etc. We are the Eugenic ape. It is what we do &#8212; it is why we have our large brains and have harvested so much information in science. We are supposed to use that information to help us survive and reach that place we sense we are going if we do not mix and are not pushed from that path by those who hate us. This knowledge is what makes us human. it is the objective basis for our intense motivation for truth and objective knowledge. We chose truth over corruption and old lower base drives and motives. Religions and science both are coming together finally. This is the most important time ever in the history of the world. This is it. We MUST overcome this obstacle, we must win this struggle or die &#8212; lose everything that most deeply motivates us and fills us with light, hope, and life. THAT reason enough for you?</p>
<p>  There are other ways we could partition the races &#8212; genetic means. I like the idea of sterility exchanges &#8212; money or priviledge for voluntary sterilization. All the aims we seek could be implemented by setting patterns at work in society so that choices people make save us and keep us on the upward path (like we were doing before Jews intervened with their selfish blind desires which are destroying us utterly). My son favors the idea of genetic engineering to keep the big 3 races from being able to interbreed &#8212; negating the effects of easy world-travel and mixing that is the consequence of both our technologies and the media we invented being misused by parties not working toward our destiny. There are other ways to do this, maybe some combination of these would work best along with temporary partitions and incentives etc. </p>
<p>   Bottom line is that we can save our race peacefully, humanely, and definitely. We need to freely be able to do research, to lift ourselves up with Eugenics like we were in EVERY white nation before WW2 was foisted upon us and the Jews gained the upper hand. Once we were back on track to our destiny, I would not give the Jews another thought except as an excellent example of just how opposite 2 peoples of the world can see life and the cruelty of mixing with them. We would focus on our race and its mission &#8212; the new species we are becoming. Upward and onward.</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 00:28:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>reply to MGLS: yes, I read McCulloch&#039;s point 13, and all the others. He&#039;s got it wrong. Before secession, the ZOG has got to be destroyed and replaced. Otherwise secession will not succeed. Then we&#039;ll see if a predominantly White Republic lets you secede and set up your albino bantustan.  I doubt it - I wouldn&#039;t - but we will see. Frankly, I regard the genes of anyone - whatever the skin pigment - who puts their life on the line against ZOG as way more valuable than the millions of pieces of liberal white garbage - probably the raw  majority of brainwashed, Jew-ruined and/or government dependent contemporary white Americans - who will support or fight to maintain the ZOG.  I call this Operational Nationalism. It, not White Nationalism alone, will be the wave of the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>reply to MGLS: yes, I read McCulloch&#8217;s point 13, and all the others. He&#8217;s got it wrong. Before secession, the ZOG has got to be destroyed and replaced. Otherwise secession will not succeed. Then we&#8217;ll see if a predominantly White Republic lets you secede and set up your albino bantustan.  I doubt it &#8211; I wouldn&#8217;t &#8211; but we will see. Frankly, I regard the genes of anyone &#8211; whatever the skin pigment &#8211; who puts their life on the line against ZOG as way more valuable than the millions of pieces of liberal white garbage &#8211; probably the raw  majority of brainwashed, Jew-ruined and/or government dependent contemporary white Americans &#8211; who will support or fight to maintain the ZOG.  I call this Operational Nationalism. It, not White Nationalism alone, will be the wave of the future.</p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 04:52:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>reply to &quot;Anon preferred&quot;: &quot;why not view partition as the preliminary step to complete reconquest?&quot; Because this puts the cart before the horse. See, in this connection, my post to Tony Glaister&#039;s &quot;Considering Secession,&quot; esp. re the Confederacy&#039;s failure . . . to successfully secede. When I talk about taking down the ZOG and reconstituting a White Republic, incidentally, I am not referencing the neo-cons and their &quot;credential nation&quot; scam. This is going to be Operational Nationalism (as in Robert Heinlein, STARSHIP TROOPERS): those who fight on the right side, ours -- and I don&#039;t care what their race is -- get citizenship. Those who don&#039;t: goodbye, one way or the other.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>reply to &#8220;Anon preferred&#8221;: &#8220;why not view partition as the preliminary step to complete reconquest?&#8221; Because this puts the cart before the horse. See, in this connection, my post to Tony Glaister&#8217;s &#8220;Considering Secession,&#8221; esp. re the Confederacy&#8217;s failure . . . to successfully secede. When I talk about taking down the ZOG and reconstituting a White Republic, incidentally, I am not referencing the neo-cons and their &#8220;credential nation&#8221; scam. This is going to be Operational Nationalism (as in Robert Heinlein, STARSHIP TROOPERS): those who fight on the right side, ours &#8212; and I don&#8217;t care what their race is &#8212; get citizenship. Those who don&#8217;t: goodbye, one way or the other.</p>
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		<title>By: MGLS</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 04:12:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As usual, Mr. McCulloch absolutely hit the nail on the head in this essay.  In the present day, nobody writes as incisively on race as does Richard McCulloch.  I hope &lt;em&gt;TOQ&lt;/em&gt; publishes more of his essays.

I am dismayed by how many pro-white advocates, as in the recent debates at Occidental Dissent, do not understand the necessity of separation and partition.  Calls for a white cultural &quot;reconquest&quot; of a multiracial America, as Sam Francis advocated, are woefully misguided.  As McCulloch says, immigration restrictions, segregation, and white supremacism cannot save us.  Only separation can.  Convincing our fellow racialists of the necessity of separation and ethnostates is of the utmost importance.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Posted by seadragonconquerer:

If some blacks, Latinos, Jews, and others who are not white wish to fight on our side during the coming violent struggle, that’s all good: God Knows, millions of brainwashed white multiculturalists are going to be fighting on the other side. &lt;/blockquote&gt; 

seadragonconquerer, did you even read this essay?  Based on your comment, I doubt it.  Point number 13 (&quot;Base Partition on Race Alone&quot;) in particular refutes what you advocate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As usual, Mr. McCulloch absolutely hit the nail on the head in this essay.  In the present day, nobody writes as incisively on race as does Richard McCulloch.  I hope <em>TOQ</em> publishes more of his essays.</p>
<p>I am dismayed by how many pro-white advocates, as in the recent debates at Occidental Dissent, do not understand the necessity of separation and partition.  Calls for a white cultural &#8220;reconquest&#8221; of a multiracial America, as Sam Francis advocated, are woefully misguided.  As McCulloch says, immigration restrictions, segregation, and white supremacism cannot save us.  Only separation can.  Convincing our fellow racialists of the necessity of separation and ethnostates is of the utmost importance.</p>
<blockquote><p>Posted by seadragonconquerer:</p>
<p>If some blacks, Latinos, Jews, and others who are not white wish to fight on our side during the coming violent struggle, that’s all good: God Knows, millions of brainwashed white multiculturalists are going to be fighting on the other side. </p></blockquote>
<p>seadragonconquerer, did you even read this essay?  Based on your comment, I doubt it.  Point number 13 (&#8220;Base Partition on Race Alone&#8221;) in particular refutes what you advocate.</p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 01:58:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Sean&quot;? Not he. As for the &quot;necessary cruelties&quot;, there are hundreds of thousands of armed hard-rightists in this country right now more than willing - in fact, eager - to do that which will be necessary to take back what the ZOG and its ethnic hirelings have stolen from us: a nation.  And for a fact, after the Crash, ZOG will force the issue via martial law and gun confiscation.  Then, we will either rise up and fight, or die.  Insofar as blacks, browns, Jews join the struggle, they can stay. Those who fight on the other side, including multiculturalist whites....will leave. One way or the other.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Sean&#8221;? Not he. As for the &#8220;necessary cruelties&#8221;, there are hundreds of thousands of armed hard-rightists in this country right now more than willing &#8211; in fact, eager &#8211; to do that which will be necessary to take back what the ZOG and its ethnic hirelings have stolen from us: a nation.  And for a fact, after the Crash, ZOG will force the issue via martial law and gun confiscation.  Then, we will either rise up and fight, or die.  Insofar as blacks, browns, Jews join the struggle, they can stay. Those who fight on the other side, including multiculturalist whites&#8230;.will leave. One way or the other.</p>
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		<title>By: Chechar</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 22:39:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;@ “What do YOU propose to do with the 100 million nonwhites within US borders?”&lt;/em&gt;

A nationalist State would allow those hundred million to buy food, take the bus or any commercial exchange within the borders only with an ID card demonstrating they have already submitted themselves to the State’s sterilization program. Non whites that want to reproduce would have to leave the white nation.

(Take note that I am arriving at this drastic conclusion in Mexico City only after decades of witnessing how a &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Army_ant&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Marabunta&lt;/a&gt; of semi-Indians bred profusely creating an army that destroyed the soul of my native neighborhood, which in the past was composed mostly by Iberian whites.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>@ “What do YOU propose to do with the 100 million nonwhites within US borders?”</em></p>
<p>A nationalist State would allow those hundred million to buy food, take the bus or any commercial exchange within the borders only with an ID card demonstrating they have already submitted themselves to the State’s sterilization program. Non whites that want to reproduce would have to leave the white nation.</p>
<p>(Take note that I am arriving at this drastic conclusion in Mexico City only after decades of witnessing how a <a target="_blank" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Army_ant" rel="nofollow">Marabunta</a> of semi-Indians bred profusely creating an army that destroyed the soul of my native neighborhood, which in the past was composed mostly by Iberian whites.)</p>
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		<title>By: Anon preferred</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 15:57:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>seadragon,

Then why not view partition as the preliminary step to complete reconquest?  What advantages do you imagine you presently hold that would be forfeited if partition were first achieved?  Partition, for you, would simply mean regrouping.  Many will vehemently disagree with your plans, but that is an issue to decided then, when you are stronger, not now, when you are weakest.  


The following is not intended for publication, but the choice is yours.

Greg Johnson,

Evidently you&#039;re not immune to some small degree of posturing yourself.  It isn&#039;t about being guilt-stricken or gutless.  Multiracial existence has created bonds between divergent peoples that are psychologically difficult to sever, and certainly difficult to sever with the finality you demand (&quot;...the cruelties necessary...&quot;).  Your insistence that they can be so easily severed itself only invites further backlash by the &#039;gutless.&#039;  It is one thing to enunciate the principles by which racial salvation can be secured; it is another thing to adhere to them in deed as well as -- and for the time being at least, more importantly -- in word.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>seadragon,</p>
<p>Then why not view partition as the preliminary step to complete reconquest?  What advantages do you imagine you presently hold that would be forfeited if partition were first achieved?  Partition, for you, would simply mean regrouping.  Many will vehemently disagree with your plans, but that is an issue to decided then, when you are stronger, not now, when you are weakest.  </p>
<p>The following is not intended for publication, but the choice is yours.</p>
<p>Greg Johnson,</p>
<p>Evidently you&#8217;re not immune to some small degree of posturing yourself.  It isn&#8217;t about being guilt-stricken or gutless.  Multiracial existence has created bonds between divergent peoples that are psychologically difficult to sever, and certainly difficult to sever with the finality you demand (&#8220;&#8230;the cruelties necessary&#8230;&#8221;).  Your insistence that they can be so easily severed itself only invites further backlash by the &#8216;gutless.&#8217;  It is one thing to enunciate the principles by which racial salvation can be secured; it is another thing to adhere to them in deed as well as &#8212; and for the time being at least, more importantly &#8212; in word.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Johnson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 05:45:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sean, while you are posturing on the internet about how &quot;NO ONE, NO ONE so long as I am alive is going to take one square inch of the current United States of America and give it to Blacks, to Mexicans, Asians, Samoans, to Jews, or anyone else&quot; the sad truth is that the title to &quot;your&quot; whole country has &lt;em&gt;already&lt;/em&gt; been given to Blacks, Mexicans, Asians, etc. They just have not taken full possession of it yet. Whites exist on borrowed time, at the sufferance of our inferiors, and American patriotardism is just the &quot;mind-forged manacles&quot; that hold us captive while the vultures gnaw at our entrails. 

It isn&#039;t your country anymore. It is their country. Whites have nothing to give away. Secessionists are talking about taking a chunk of it back, because the white man is too yellow and guilt-sick and gutless to contemplate the cruelties necessary for taking the whole thing back. 

What do YOU propose to do with the 100 million nonwhites within US borders?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sean, while you are posturing on the internet about how &#8220;NO ONE, NO ONE so long as I am alive is going to take one square inch of the current United States of America and give it to Blacks, to Mexicans, Asians, Samoans, to Jews, or anyone else&#8221; the sad truth is that the title to &#8220;your&#8221; whole country has <em>already</em> been given to Blacks, Mexicans, Asians, etc. They just have not taken full possession of it yet. Whites exist on borrowed time, at the sufferance of our inferiors, and American patriotardism is just the &#8220;mind-forged manacles&#8221; that hold us captive while the vultures gnaw at our entrails. </p>
<p>It isn&#8217;t your country anymore. It is their country. Whites have nothing to give away. Secessionists are talking about taking a chunk of it back, because the white man is too yellow and guilt-sick and gutless to contemplate the cruelties necessary for taking the whole thing back. </p>
<p>What do YOU propose to do with the 100 million nonwhites within US borders?</p>
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		<title>By: seadragonconquerer</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 03:51:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I regard Richard McCulloch&#039;s plan for a North American White Bantustan, like Hart&#039;s, to be something drawn from the 7th Circle of Cloud Cuckooland; also known as AmRen.  You gentlemen just got routed by a clown named Imm, and you think you can save the White Race? Don&#039;t make me laugh. Call me megalomaniac if you like, but NO ONE, NO ONE so long as I am alive is going to take one square inch of the current United States of America and give it to Blacks, to Mexicans, Asians, Samoans, to Jews, or anyone else in the so-called process of &quot;saving the White Race.&quot; Recently I had an e-mail exchange with a political consultant who is giving advice to various state-secessionist cabals:

           

&lt;blockquote&gt;I&#039;ve heard refractions of this Secession Thing in the MSM for the past few
           months. Only a few hours ago did I start looking at some of the associated
           internet sites and articles. Evidently you people are quite serious about it. As
           things now stand, I expect out debt-drowned, pyramid-scheme economy to
           collapse around mid-2012: shortly after the Zionist directorate hits Iran, oil
           prices skyrocket, and the dollar gets run. This will lead swiftly to a Time of
           Troubles. Race War. Class War. And you want to arrange various secessions on
           top of these coming bloodbaths? I double guarantee you, when I or someone like
           me -- a hard-right American Nationalist -- knits it all back together, things will go
           very hard with secessionists.&lt;/blockquote&gt;



You may take this as fair warning. I want the restoration of a White Republic. If some blacks, Latinos, Jews, and others who are not white wish to fight on our side during the coming violent struggle, that&#039;s all good: God Knows, millions of brainwashed white multiculturalists are going to be fighting on the other side. And that is how the historical decision is going to be made. Not at AmRen conferences. We either take it all back, or we lose it all. And if we are not capable of taking it all back, then we will deserve to lose it all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I regard Richard McCulloch&#8217;s plan for a North American White Bantustan, like Hart&#8217;s, to be something drawn from the 7th Circle of Cloud Cuckooland; also known as AmRen.  You gentlemen just got routed by a clown named Imm, and you think you can save the White Race? Don&#8217;t make me laugh. Call me megalomaniac if you like, but NO ONE, NO ONE so long as I am alive is going to take one square inch of the current United States of America and give it to Blacks, to Mexicans, Asians, Samoans, to Jews, or anyone else in the so-called process of &#8220;saving the White Race.&#8221; Recently I had an e-mail exchange with a political consultant who is giving advice to various state-secessionist cabals:</p>
<blockquote><p>I&#8217;ve heard refractions of this Secession Thing in the MSM for the past few<br />
           months. Only a few hours ago did I start looking at some of the associated<br />
           internet sites and articles. Evidently you people are quite serious about it. As<br />
           things now stand, I expect out debt-drowned, pyramid-scheme economy to<br />
           collapse around mid-2012: shortly after the Zionist directorate hits Iran, oil<br />
           prices skyrocket, and the dollar gets run. This will lead swiftly to a Time of<br />
           Troubles. Race War. Class War. And you want to arrange various secessions on<br />
           top of these coming bloodbaths? I double guarantee you, when I or someone like<br />
           me &#8212; a hard-right American Nationalist &#8212; knits it all back together, things will go<br />
           very hard with secessionists.</p></blockquote>
<p>You may take this as fair warning. I want the restoration of a White Republic. If some blacks, Latinos, Jews, and others who are not white wish to fight on our side during the coming violent struggle, that&#8217;s all good: God Knows, millions of brainwashed white multiculturalists are going to be fighting on the other side. And that is how the historical decision is going to be made. Not at AmRen conferences. We either take it all back, or we lose it all. And if we are not capable of taking it all back, then we will deserve to lose it all.</p>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think that racial partitioning will occur based upon demographics. An all-White ethnostate could emerge in a part of the U.S. where only 50% of the population is White, if those Whites were ready and organized to establish an ethnostate. Meanwhile, the states that are nearly 90% White may choose to stay with the United States, after all - they haven&#039;t felt the burden of living next to several million non-Whites yet.

But, let&#039;s not get ahead of ourselves. We still have to organize these Whites and get them racially aware. Until that happens we will have no hope of a racial partition, no matter how finely drawn it is!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think that racial partitioning will occur based upon demographics. An all-White ethnostate could emerge in a part of the U.S. where only 50% of the population is White, if those Whites were ready and organized to establish an ethnostate. Meanwhile, the states that are nearly 90% White may choose to stay with the United States, after all &#8211; they haven&#8217;t felt the burden of living next to several million non-Whites yet.</p>
<p>But, let&#8217;s not get ahead of ourselves. We still have to organize these Whites and get them racially aware. Until that happens we will have no hope of a racial partition, no matter how finely drawn it is!</p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 22:04:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A white ethnostate or ethnostates in North America would still, clearly, have to maintain a version of the Monroe Doctrine in relation to any new non-white ethnostates in this hemisphere. Fortunately, as you point out, non-whites left to their own devices produce weak and chaoitic and poor societies like Haiti and Mexico. These countries are relatively easy to push around or rule by proxy (friendly dictators with US dollars in Swiss banks).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A white ethnostate or ethnostates in North America would still, clearly, have to maintain a version of the Monroe Doctrine in relation to any new non-white ethnostates in this hemisphere. Fortunately, as you point out, non-whites left to their own devices produce weak and chaoitic and poor societies like Haiti and Mexico. These countries are relatively easy to push around or rule by proxy (friendly dictators with US dollars in Swiss banks).</p>
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		<title>By: Luke</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 16:18:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good point, Maxsnafu.

I&#039;ve got another question along the same lines.   Let&#039;s say Mexicans wind up seizing
all of California and it becomes part of Aztlan or Mexico el norte, or whatever.    And, correspondingly, let&#039;s say Haitians and Cubans and Puerto Ricans seize all of Florida.

Since, in the scenario where Whites have their new homeland - carved out somewhere on the North American continent - that means these non-white racial groups would no longer have access to the paychecks of their former white tax playing slaves and would be completely on their own.   No welfare, no hand outs, no cradle to grave goodies.      Life in these non-white areas would rapidly revert to the third world, poverty stricken, violent hell-holes that exist in whatever other areas of the world where non-whites are in charge.

Let&#039;s say a hostile foreign nation or nations, Communist Red China - or maybe even the most evil nation on the planet, Israel  - comes along and offers to bribe these non-whites who now control key coastal areas of the North American continent and offers them or their corrupt leadership some money or food in exchange for their being able to establish a military base or a naval base on their territory?

These possibilities would clearly pose a serious and very dangerous threat to the new White homeland, because they would be footholds on our continent from which military attacks could be launched.     And, while I can&#039;t vouch for whether or not Red China has any particular obsession to exterminate the white race - I think most savvy white nationalists understand that this is precisely what drives and motivates the Jewish enemy - and I&#039;d put the odds at 100 percent that this would be a major concern for any new, and smaller, white homeland in North America.

For those doubters who might naively assume that the Jewish enemy would leave us alone - I suggest that they remember that Talmudic thinking is what controls the Jewish mindset - and these creatures believe in preemptively attacking and murdering anyone who they perceive &#039;might&#039; become an enemy at some undetermined point in the future.   So,   I have a gut feeling that Jews would never want to allow whites to regroup, to build their population numbers back up and someday pose a threat to them - we are just too talented and creative and therefore, would eventually bounce back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point, Maxsnafu.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve got another question along the same lines.   Let&#8217;s say Mexicans wind up seizing<br />
all of California and it becomes part of Aztlan or Mexico el norte, or whatever.    And, correspondingly, let&#8217;s say Haitians and Cubans and Puerto Ricans seize all of Florida.</p>
<p>Since, in the scenario where Whites have their new homeland &#8211; carved out somewhere on the North American continent &#8211; that means these non-white racial groups would no longer have access to the paychecks of their former white tax playing slaves and would be completely on their own.   No welfare, no hand outs, no cradle to grave goodies.      Life in these non-white areas would rapidly revert to the third world, poverty stricken, violent hell-holes that exist in whatever other areas of the world where non-whites are in charge.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s say a hostile foreign nation or nations, Communist Red China &#8211; or maybe even the most evil nation on the planet, Israel  &#8211; comes along and offers to bribe these non-whites who now control key coastal areas of the North American continent and offers them or their corrupt leadership some money or food in exchange for their being able to establish a military base or a naval base on their territory?</p>
<p>These possibilities would clearly pose a serious and very dangerous threat to the new White homeland, because they would be footholds on our continent from which military attacks could be launched.     And, while I can&#8217;t vouch for whether or not Red China has any particular obsession to exterminate the white race &#8211; I think most savvy white nationalists understand that this is precisely what drives and motivates the Jewish enemy &#8211; and I&#8217;d put the odds at 100 percent that this would be a major concern for any new, and smaller, white homeland in North America.</p>
<p>For those doubters who might naively assume that the Jewish enemy would leave us alone &#8211; I suggest that they remember that Talmudic thinking is what controls the Jewish mindset &#8211; and these creatures believe in preemptively attacking and murdering anyone who they perceive &#8216;might&#8217; become an enemy at some undetermined point in the future.   So,   I have a gut feeling that Jews would never want to allow whites to regroup, to build their population numbers back up and someday pose a threat to them &#8211; we are just too talented and creative and therefore, would eventually bounce back.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Johnson</title>
		<link>http://www.toqonline.com/blog/separate-or-die/comment-page-1/#comment-6845</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 20:37:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I asked Richard Mcculloch about the broken link, and here is his reply: 



&lt;blockquote&gt;The link is broken because I&#039;m doing another revision of my secession map, and also upgrading it to a more professional look, which involves making a totally new map.

The revision now basically includes all Gentile Europeans in the same country, instead of proposing separation from the more hard-core distinct Mediterranean types that make up much of the population of southern Europe. This makes my proposal consistent with the &quot;official&quot; TOQ definition of our racial &quot;in-group&quot; although at a racial cost to the northern European racial identity of the country. Still, it has reached the point where it now seems totally unrealistic, even quixotic, to try to separate the hard-core Mediterranean elements in the US population from other Europeans, as so many of them are now largely assimilated, and even more difficult to draw some line between assimilable and unassimilable elements in the Italian-American, Greek-American or Spanish-American populations. Of course, in Europe itself we still could and should encourage the preservation of the different racial groups in their own historic nations, even perhaps northern Italians as distinct from southern Italians, but in the European-American population it now seems that the political cost of promoting such an effort would exceed the racial benefit.

The revision also factors in the increasing non-European Caucasian population, originating from north Africa and west and central Asia (in which I include the Jews as a group, although acknowledging that there are individual exceptions to the rule), and allows them as well as mixed-race individuals and families to fill the territory that had previously been allotted to the hard-core Mediterranean types from southern Europe. Also, this considers a possible large increase in this grouping if the immigrant populations from these regions were expelled from Europe, giving them a place to go to if return to their regions of origin were blocked, the way India blocked the return of the emigre Indian population from Uganda when Idi Amin expelled them, resulting in their migration as refugees to Britain, etc. Significantly, this creates a de facto multiracial country in my plan, consisting of a racially-regionally defined group of non-European Caucasians (including Jews with few exceptions) along with a diverse group of Europeans mated to non-Europeans and their mixed offspring, and those who have adopted non-European children, as well as those European family members who choose not to be separated from their race-mixing and racially-mixed relatives. But, for Europeans, inclusion in this multiracial state would require an actual act of producing non-European offspring, either naturally by intermixture or by adoption, either by oneself or a close family member, and not simply a general choice or preference for a multiracial state. Perhaps a little poetic justice here for the Jews, who have been the great promoters of multiracialism and diversity, the environment they have always sought to create as beneficial to them and their interests. 

I&#039;ve been dragging my feet on this revision, largely because of the drawn-old process of rethinking some concepts, to whatever limited degree, as well as new ones. I&#039;m being careful about it as it is a matter I take seriously. But I think I&#039;m fairly well settled now on what I want to do. I&#039;ll let you know when the new revised map is up.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I asked Richard Mcculloch about the broken link, and here is his reply: </p>
<blockquote><p>The link is broken because I&#8217;m doing another revision of my secession map, and also upgrading it to a more professional look, which involves making a totally new map.</p>
<p>The revision now basically includes all Gentile Europeans in the same country, instead of proposing separation from the more hard-core distinct Mediterranean types that make up much of the population of southern Europe. This makes my proposal consistent with the &#8220;official&#8221; TOQ definition of our racial &#8220;in-group&#8221; although at a racial cost to the northern European racial identity of the country. Still, it has reached the point where it now seems totally unrealistic, even quixotic, to try to separate the hard-core Mediterranean elements in the US population from other Europeans, as so many of them are now largely assimilated, and even more difficult to draw some line between assimilable and unassimilable elements in the Italian-American, Greek-American or Spanish-American populations. Of course, in Europe itself we still could and should encourage the preservation of the different racial groups in their own historic nations, even perhaps northern Italians as distinct from southern Italians, but in the European-American population it now seems that the political cost of promoting such an effort would exceed the racial benefit.</p>
<p>The revision also factors in the increasing non-European Caucasian population, originating from north Africa and west and central Asia (in which I include the Jews as a group, although acknowledging that there are individual exceptions to the rule), and allows them as well as mixed-race individuals and families to fill the territory that had previously been allotted to the hard-core Mediterranean types from southern Europe. Also, this considers a possible large increase in this grouping if the immigrant populations from these regions were expelled from Europe, giving them a place to go to if return to their regions of origin were blocked, the way India blocked the return of the emigre Indian population from Uganda when Idi Amin expelled them, resulting in their migration as refugees to Britain, etc. Significantly, this creates a de facto multiracial country in my plan, consisting of a racially-regionally defined group of non-European Caucasians (including Jews with few exceptions) along with a diverse group of Europeans mated to non-Europeans and their mixed offspring, and those who have adopted non-European children, as well as those European family members who choose not to be separated from their race-mixing and racially-mixed relatives. But, for Europeans, inclusion in this multiracial state would require an actual act of producing non-European offspring, either naturally by intermixture or by adoption, either by oneself or a close family member, and not simply a general choice or preference for a multiracial state. Perhaps a little poetic justice here for the Jews, who have been the great promoters of multiracialism and diversity, the environment they have always sought to create as beneficial to them and their interests. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been dragging my feet on this revision, largely because of the drawn-old process of rethinking some concepts, to whatever limited degree, as well as new ones. I&#8217;m being careful about it as it is a matter I take seriously. But I think I&#8217;m fairly well settled now on what I want to do. I&#8217;ll let you know when the new revised map is up.
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		<title>By: maxsnafu</title>
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		<dc:creator>maxsnafu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 15:44:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>None of the schemes for racial partition insofar as I&#039;m aware, address one vexing problem:  There are nuclear reactors scattered all over the U.S. Do we want these facilities to fall into the hands of Blacks and Mestizos who are ill equipped to operate them? Do we want to take the risk that these groups might allow others with nuclear savvy access to highly radioactive materials which could be used as a weapon?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>None of the schemes for racial partition insofar as I&#8217;m aware, address one vexing problem:  There are nuclear reactors scattered all over the U.S. Do we want these facilities to fall into the hands of Blacks and Mestizos who are ill equipped to operate them? Do we want to take the risk that these groups might allow others with nuclear savvy access to highly radioactive materials which could be used as a weapon?</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Parrott</title>
		<link>http://www.toqonline.com/blog/separate-or-die/comment-page-1/#comment-6835</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Parrott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 12:05:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Partition Map link is broken.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Partition Map link is broken.</p>
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