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	<title>Comments on: Julius Evola&#8217;s Concept of Race: A Racism of Three Degrees</title>
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		<title>By: Eumaeus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eumaeus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Dec 2010 04:30:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great summmary. Don&#039;t hesitate to buy Bruno cariou&#039;s various translations he will fill orders faithfully.</description>
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		<title>By: Rudel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rudel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Dec 2010 00:41:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve never read such a sheer load of unadulterated unscientific claptrap as this so-called article and that includes both the New and Old Testaments.

Hello, there is no transcendent spirit world or any other metaphysical reality.  There ain&#039;t nobody here but us chickens and romantic notions about God and the spirit world only detracts us from our task of getting about our business in the real world.

Whites don&#039;t need a religious crutch.  We need to shed these superstitious beliefs that cripple us morally and intellectually and keep us enslaved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve never read such a sheer load of unadulterated unscientific claptrap as this so-called article and that includes both the New and Old Testaments.</p>
<p>Hello, there is no transcendent spirit world or any other metaphysical reality.  There ain&#8217;t nobody here but us chickens and romantic notions about God and the spirit world only detracts us from our task of getting about our business in the real world.</p>
<p>Whites don&#8217;t need a religious crutch.  We need to shed these superstitious beliefs that cripple us morally and intellectually and keep us enslaved.</p>
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		<title>By: lennart</title>
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		<dc:creator>lennart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Sep 2010 08:35:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;spiritual side of race&quot;  There is no such thing. It is all about identity and culture, of course race or ethnicity is a part of it.
The western high culture was destroyed and hijacked by a jewish ideology. That is christianity. One of the main damages remaining is that the European identity has been compromised. Many Europeans, but especially Americans identify themselves more with the Jews in the bible and todays Israel than with their fellow Europeans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;spiritual side of race&#8221;  There is no such thing. It is all about identity and culture, of course race or ethnicity is a part of it.<br />
The western high culture was destroyed and hijacked by a jewish ideology. That is christianity. One of the main damages remaining is that the European identity has been compromised. Many Europeans, but especially Americans identify themselves more with the Jews in the bible and todays Israel than with their fellow Europeans.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Ryker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Ryker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Aug 2010 04:20:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow - First the EXCELLENT article on Evola by Michael Bell, and then the often inspiring insights &amp; observations by the Respondents.

I must admit, however, that IfA&#039;s comments are quite telling.  IfA, I don&#039;t know if I&#039;d go so far as to hold that ALL Traditionalists, or even Traditionalists in general, would go so far as to say that &quot;evolution is a degenerative process. &quot;  Simply stated, I just don&#039;t know.  Rather, I can see that some, perhaps more than some, might be like me:  I am a Traditional Catholic and I DON&#039;T &quot;BELIEVE IN&quot; ANY KIND OF EVOLUTION ONE WAY OR THE OTHER, ESP.  NOT &quot;DARWINIAN.&quot;

However, &quot;complexity cannot arise from simplicity&quot; I for one think is &quot;Right on the money.&quot;  And, &quot;Evolution is a very atheistical phenomenon: purposeless and directionless; no hidden and/or cosmic teleology here!&quot; is likewise not only metaphysically and existentially correct, it is logically correct and perfectly in-keeping with the thinking of Evolution.

Mr. Romer, I&#039;ll admit that I WANT to believe the things you write.  They are a &quot;balm&quot; to my soul in a time of what I fear mavbe a time of satanic power &amp; control over the Earth.  My problem is that with &quot;seeing&quot; the truth of what is happening &amp; going IN ACTUALITY at this time, I SO SADLY must say that &quot;[we] alone have that upward spirit manifested in our best people and their vision as well as in our lower classes and their self-sacrificial WORK ethic. Together we have vision and ability. We move forward toward higher truth and higher man&quot;  is simply NOT TRUE.

Look at what IS happening IN REALITY.  WE WHITES ARE SELF-DESTRUCTING AND BEING RACIALLY BRED OUT OF EXISTENCE.  An intra-race fertility rate of approx. 1.6 /US, and on average approx. 1.3 in &quot;the White Man&#039;s Existential Home,&quot;
 Europe, combined with an extremely UGLY (both literally &amp; figuratively) BLACK - WHITE MISCEGENATION that has grown 15 TIMES since 2008, and it is clear that in all liklihood that WE ARE GOING TO DIE, AND MANY OF US, ESP. MALES, PHYSICALLY DESTROYED IN THE PROCESS.

I WANT to believe your remarks.  But the literal evidence IS that I CAN&#039;T.  The ugly Truth is that White males NO LONGER HAVE ANY BALLS.  Just LOOK at the Reality all around us.

Steve R.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow &#8211; First the EXCELLENT article on Evola by Michael Bell, and then the often inspiring insights &amp; observations by the Respondents.</p>
<p>I must admit, however, that IfA&#8217;s comments are quite telling.  IfA, I don&#8217;t know if I&#8217;d go so far as to hold that ALL Traditionalists, or even Traditionalists in general, would go so far as to say that &#8220;evolution is a degenerative process. &#8221;  Simply stated, I just don&#8217;t know.  Rather, I can see that some, perhaps more than some, might be like me:  I am a Traditional Catholic and I DON&#8217;T &#8220;BELIEVE IN&#8221; ANY KIND OF EVOLUTION ONE WAY OR THE OTHER, ESP.  NOT &#8220;DARWINIAN.&#8221;</p>
<p>However, &#8220;complexity cannot arise from simplicity&#8221; I for one think is &#8220;Right on the money.&#8221;  And, &#8220;Evolution is a very atheistical phenomenon: purposeless and directionless; no hidden and/or cosmic teleology here!&#8221; is likewise not only metaphysically and existentially correct, it is logically correct and perfectly in-keeping with the thinking of Evolution.</p>
<p>Mr. Romer, I&#8217;ll admit that I WANT to believe the things you write.  They are a &#8220;balm&#8221; to my soul in a time of what I fear mavbe a time of satanic power &amp; control over the Earth.  My problem is that with &#8220;seeing&#8221; the truth of what is happening &amp; going IN ACTUALITY at this time, I SO SADLY must say that &#8220;[we] alone have that upward spirit manifested in our best people and their vision as well as in our lower classes and their self-sacrificial WORK ethic. Together we have vision and ability. We move forward toward higher truth and higher man&#8221;  is simply NOT TRUE.</p>
<p>Look at what IS happening IN REALITY.  WE WHITES ARE SELF-DESTRUCTING AND BEING RACIALLY BRED OUT OF EXISTENCE.  An intra-race fertility rate of approx. 1.6 /US, and on average approx. 1.3 in &#8220;the White Man&#8217;s Existential Home,&#8221;<br />
 Europe, combined with an extremely UGLY (both literally &amp; figuratively) BLACK &#8211; WHITE MISCEGENATION that has grown 15 TIMES since 2008, and it is clear that in all liklihood that WE ARE GOING TO DIE, AND MANY OF US, ESP. MALES, PHYSICALLY DESTROYED IN THE PROCESS.</p>
<p>I WANT to believe your remarks.  But the literal evidence IS that I CAN&#8217;T.  The ugly Truth is that White males NO LONGER HAVE ANY BALLS.  Just LOOK at the Reality all around us.</p>
<p>Steve R.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Aug 2010 01:18:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Evola is interesting, but his evolutionary theories are misguided. How could such an erudite man ignore radio carbon dating? Also mistaken, in my opinion, is using the word race when talking about spiritual condition, as Splengler did as well. Doing such confuses the issue. Race refers to phenotype. Call  the classification of spiritual types by another name.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Evola is interesting, but his evolutionary theories are misguided. How could such an erudite man ignore radio carbon dating? Also mistaken, in my opinion, is using the word race when talking about spiritual condition, as Splengler did as well. Doing such confuses the issue. Race refers to phenotype. Call  the classification of spiritual types by another name.</p>
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		<title>By: KGL</title>
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		<dc:creator>KGL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 18:45:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A nice summation of the heart of Evola&#039;s racial theories. I have little hope, however, of much of anything in the way of transcendence coming to the fore in America, at least in this generation, which is all the more disheartening since time is against us. The type of superior man that Evola wrote so eloquently about can be seen in a first-hand account of a Swedish volunteer in the SS Nordlund Division, which saw action on the eastern front.

Erik Wallis and his comrades faced overwhelming odds against the Communist hordes, and conducted themselves with courage, honor, dignity, and &quot;kameradschaft.&quot; Despite amazing stories of personal heroism and self-sacrifice, his prose is modest when describing these struggles. As the article above states, &quot;..it is the character of the strong and silent type.&quot; Reading this, it is hard to believe that it is only a couple of generations ago that this type of man was among us. He was of our parents and grand-parents generation. With very few exceptions, American WN movements rarely rise above the mediocre, often drifting into yet another hate-filled rant of the &quot;perennial jew&quot; and dark-skinned hordes. Fine, we all know what the problem is: What are we going to do about it? What acceptance can there be in America of a transcendent Volksgeist amid brain-dead Christianity and an American white working-class that cares little about anything except sports scores? Dark times ahead may serve to wake many of these people up, but I fear that, being the sheep they are, they will turn to the first demagogue that offers them bread and circuses. Sorry for the gloomy tone; I don&#039;t see much in America that can offer much hope.

For those interested, the book that I refer to is called &quot;Twilight of the Gods&quot;: A Swedish Volunteer in the 11th SS Panzergrenadier Division &quot;Nordland&quot; on the Eastern Front. It is published by Stackpole Books, and was edited by Thorolf Hillblad. What a great and sobering read.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A nice summation of the heart of Evola&#8217;s racial theories. I have little hope, however, of much of anything in the way of transcendence coming to the fore in America, at least in this generation, which is all the more disheartening since time is against us. The type of superior man that Evola wrote so eloquently about can be seen in a first-hand account of a Swedish volunteer in the SS Nordlund Division, which saw action on the eastern front.</p>
<p>Erik Wallis and his comrades faced overwhelming odds against the Communist hordes, and conducted themselves with courage, honor, dignity, and &#8220;kameradschaft.&#8221; Despite amazing stories of personal heroism and self-sacrifice, his prose is modest when describing these struggles. As the article above states, &#8220;..it is the character of the strong and silent type.&#8221; Reading this, it is hard to believe that it is only a couple of generations ago that this type of man was among us. He was of our parents and grand-parents generation. With very few exceptions, American WN movements rarely rise above the mediocre, often drifting into yet another hate-filled rant of the &#8220;perennial jew&#8221; and dark-skinned hordes. Fine, we all know what the problem is: What are we going to do about it? What acceptance can there be in America of a transcendent Volksgeist amid brain-dead Christianity and an American white working-class that cares little about anything except sports scores? Dark times ahead may serve to wake many of these people up, but I fear that, being the sheep they are, they will turn to the first demagogue that offers them bread and circuses. Sorry for the gloomy tone; I don&#8217;t see much in America that can offer much hope.</p>
<p>For those interested, the book that I refer to is called &#8220;Twilight of the Gods&#8221;: A Swedish Volunteer in the 11th SS Panzergrenadier Division &#8220;Nordland&#8221; on the Eastern Front. It is published by Stackpole Books, and was edited by Thorolf Hillblad. What a great and sobering read.</p>
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		<title>By: Herp</title>
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		<dc:creator>Herp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 10:53:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Holy Sh%t. 

Evola&#039;s races of the body,  race of the soul and the race of the spirit are very close to the gnostic classifications of people - namely,  hyletic, psychic and pneumatic respectively.

From: http://www.gnosis.org/gnintro.htm

&quot;Not all humans are spiritual (pneumatics) and thus ready for Gnosis and liberation. Some are earthbound and materialistic beings (hyletics), who recognize only the physical reality. Others live largely in their psyche (psychics). Such people usually mistake the Demiurge* for the True God and have little or no awareness of the spiritual world beyond matter and mind.&quot; 

*In Gnosticism, the Demiurge, sometimes called Saklas, was a false god which created the world in his image in order to supplant the higher order of the universe with his own image. The Gnostics proclaimed that the Jews were the worshippers of the Demiurge, or in Kabbalah what they refer to as the creator. 

And from: www.gnosis.org/library/valentinus/Faith_Knowledge.htm

The psychic (soul) level of salvation was decisive in that it opened the person to the possibility of attaining the pneumatic (spirit) level.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Holy Sh%t. </p>
<p>Evola&#8217;s races of the body,  race of the soul and the race of the spirit are very close to the gnostic classifications of people &#8211; namely,  hyletic, psychic and pneumatic respectively.</p>
<p>From: <a target="_blank" href="http://www.gnosis.org/gnintro.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.gnosis.org/gnintro.htm</a></p>
<p>&#8220;Not all humans are spiritual (pneumatics) and thus ready for Gnosis and liberation. Some are earthbound and materialistic beings (hyletics), who recognize only the physical reality. Others live largely in their psyche (psychics). Such people usually mistake the Demiurge* for the True God and have little or no awareness of the spiritual world beyond matter and mind.&#8221; </p>
<p>*In Gnosticism, the Demiurge, sometimes called Saklas, was a false god which created the world in his image in order to supplant the higher order of the universe with his own image. The Gnostics proclaimed that the Jews were the worshippers of the Demiurge, or in Kabbalah what they refer to as the creator. </p>
<p>And from: <a target="_blank" href="http://www.gnosis.org/library/valentinus/Faith_Knowledge.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.gnosis.org/library/valentinus/Faith_Knowledge.htm</a></p>
<p>The psychic (soul) level of salvation was decisive in that it opened the person to the possibility of attaining the pneumatic (spirit) level.</p>
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		<title>By: Chechar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chechar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2010 21:42:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;@ “In the American context, racialism is virtually devoid of any higher, spiritual element; many racialists even take pride in this.”&lt;/em&gt;

What will probably be the very last post in my blog deals with the topic of physical beauty among Nordish females—i.e, our wives and daughters in traditional families—as the spiritual path that could galvanize white consciousness to conquer the darkest our in our civilization (&lt;a href=&quot;http://caesartort.blogspot.com/2010/07/parting-word.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>@ “In the American context, racialism is virtually devoid of any higher, spiritual element; many racialists even take pride in this.”</em></p>
<p>What will probably be the very last post in my blog deals with the topic of physical beauty among Nordish females—i.e, our wives and daughters in traditional families—as the spiritual path that could galvanize white consciousness to conquer the darkest our in our civilization (<a target="_blank" href="http://caesartort.blogspot.com/2010/07/parting-word.html" rel="nofollow">here</a>).</p>
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		<title>By: Iranian for Aryans</title>
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		<dc:creator>Iranian for Aryans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jul 2010 19:31:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You have it wrong, Mr. Romer. Traditionalism states that evolution is a degenerative process. There is no &quot;upward&quot; movement from simpler life-forms to more advanced varieties. In fact, complexity cannot arise from simplicity, according to this school of thought.

Evolution is a very atheistical phenomenon: purposeless and directionless; no hidden and/or cosmic teleology here!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have it wrong, Mr. Romer. Traditionalism states that evolution is a degenerative process. There is no &#8220;upward&#8221; movement from simpler life-forms to more advanced varieties. In fact, complexity cannot arise from simplicity, according to this school of thought.</p>
<p>Evolution is a very atheistical phenomenon: purposeless and directionless; no hidden and/or cosmic teleology here!</p>
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		<title>By: Steven E. Romer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steven E. Romer</dc:creator>
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		<description>Great Article. I think that Evola gets it 100% right in the basic ideas. Especially in the idea of a destiny, plan, upward path. This IS the prize sought by all life. I think that is the real value of my book &quot;The Textbook of the Universe: The Genetic Ascent to God&quot; -- it shows this clearly and objectively in the context of modern science. I admit I have not read most of Evolas works, but it sounds like I need to. 

The aztecs and Mayans may have had the idea -- likely spawned by a white man visiting them, later enshrined in their &quot;Viracocha&quot; myths -- but got it wrong in that they took people up the pyramid and sacrificed them. It is OK to sacrifice for higher things, this makes an upward race, but getting it wrong and decimating your self-sacrificial spirit by mass-murder of your own people because you do not fully understand is perhaps the MOST wrong you can get. THAT is a path to the African pattern -- a pattern responsible for countless genocides of higher spirits. The man who thinks ahead and amasses wealth (resources) toward higher things among the violent and impulsive will not last long. Corruption and violence is a downward spiral into oblivion. A dead-end trap for life.

  Taking control of our destiny, and having the insight and value of objective truth to actually do it right is the miracle of white men ALONE on the Earth, and maybe in the entire universe.  We alone have that upward spirit manifested in our best people and their vision as well as in our lower classes and their self-sacrificial WORK ethic. Together we have vision and ability. We move forward toward higher truth and higher man. 

    All morality is eugenics.  All religion is self-selection toward higher goals and destinies -- knowing the mutability of life and RACE. Race is the MOST important thing in the universe. RACE IS RELIGION. I have said before that the white race is the most perfect living religion -- maybe the ONLY true living religion by completely empirical and objective standards -- which other races seek to emulate. Religion is race-building. If you investigate the history of religion, religion seems to be an alchemy of the chemistry of evolution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great Article. I think that Evola gets it 100% right in the basic ideas. Especially in the idea of a destiny, plan, upward path. This IS the prize sought by all life. I think that is the real value of my book &#8220;The Textbook of the Universe: The Genetic Ascent to God&#8221; &#8212; it shows this clearly and objectively in the context of modern science. I admit I have not read most of Evolas works, but it sounds like I need to. </p>
<p>The aztecs and Mayans may have had the idea &#8212; likely spawned by a white man visiting them, later enshrined in their &#8220;Viracocha&#8221; myths &#8212; but got it wrong in that they took people up the pyramid and sacrificed them. It is OK to sacrifice for higher things, this makes an upward race, but getting it wrong and decimating your self-sacrificial spirit by mass-murder of your own people because you do not fully understand is perhaps the MOST wrong you can get. THAT is a path to the African pattern &#8212; a pattern responsible for countless genocides of higher spirits. The man who thinks ahead and amasses wealth (resources) toward higher things among the violent and impulsive will not last long. Corruption and violence is a downward spiral into oblivion. A dead-end trap for life.</p>
<p>  Taking control of our destiny, and having the insight and value of objective truth to actually do it right is the miracle of white men ALONE on the Earth, and maybe in the entire universe.  We alone have that upward spirit manifested in our best people and their vision as well as in our lower classes and their self-sacrificial WORK ethic. Together we have vision and ability. We move forward toward higher truth and higher man. </p>
<p>    All morality is eugenics.  All religion is self-selection toward higher goals and destinies &#8212; knowing the mutability of life and RACE. Race is the MOST important thing in the universe. RACE IS RELIGION. I have said before that the white race is the most perfect living religion &#8212; maybe the ONLY true living religion by completely empirical and objective standards &#8212; which other races seek to emulate. Religion is race-building. If you investigate the history of religion, religion seems to be an alchemy of the chemistry of evolution.</p>
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