By Richard Hoste | 10 Comments |
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Answering Objections to Eugenics
Whenever I tell people I favor eugenics they tell me that the state shouldn’t have such power. One thing that’s overlooked is that it already does. As Hernstein and Murray wrote in The Bell Curve:
we are as apprehensive as most other people about what might happen when a government decides to social-engineer who has babies and who doesn’t. We can imagine no recommendation for using the government to manipulate fertility that does not have dangers. But this highlights the problem: The United States already has policies that inadvertently social-engineer who has babies, and it is encouraging the wrong women. If the United States did as much to encourage high-IQ women to have babies as it now does to encourage low-IQ women, it would rightly be describes as engaging in aggressive manipulation of fertility. The technically precise description of America’s fertility policy is that it subsidizes births among poor women, who are also disproportionately at the low end of the intelligence distribution.
I don’t like government, but one thing it’s proven that it can do for certain is administer objective standardized tests that heavily correlate with g. It would be hard to abuse a law that forcibly sterilized everybody with an IQ under 90 provided that the person scored that low on an objective test blindly graded. Somebody who wants to argue that he had a bad day would have the right to an appeal, which would consist of another IQ test.
If a libertarian wants to propose that even somebody with an IQ of 90 has rights, they would have to oppose government having the power to lock people up in mental institutions. We already let the state decide that some people aren’t fit to participate in society even if they’ve yet to do anything wrong. This is a system open to abuse, but still a necessary evil. Letting unintelligent breed is as surly damaging to society as letting schizophrenics run loose is. My plan is less likely than the mental health profession to catch someone unfairly as an IQ test is a more certain measure of intelligence than a psychiatrist’s diagnosis is of a mental disorder worthy of institutionalization. Some doctors have been known to disagree over whether someone needs to be locked up, but no two IQ test ever differ much about how intelligent someone is.
The libertarian belief that whenever government acts it violates people’s rights and so it should be kept as small and powerless as possible is for the most part correct. We should abide by this maxim, except in cases where doing nothing means a libertarian society can’t continue to exist: for example, allowing low IQ groups to settle in the country or the unintelligent to keep breeding.
There is another modification I’d like to make of the classical theory. Some groups such as children and the insane aren’t considered capable of entering into contracts or being responsible for their actions and are thus not fully entitled to the rights government grants to competent adults. IQ realism forces us to expand the circle of those that need protection (and from whom we need to protect ourselves). It makes no sense to say that someone with an IQ of 65 is ill and one with an IQ of 75 is a responsible, rational actor. Wherever you draw the line between the free citizen and the unfree is going to be to a certain extent arbitrary, as the definition of retarded at 70 and below is. I’m simply convinced that it should be higher. Whatever we classify as the new retarded, and I think it should be at least IQ 80 and probably 90 and below, we need to make sure that there are less of these people so that a free society can continue to exist.
Ideally it wouldn’t be government that ran the eugenics program but private organizations. But that’s a different post.
From HBD Books


Lots of work that needs done, however, would be insufferable boring and oppressive to anyone with a high or even average IQ. Having some low IQ people is probably adaptive.
Who cares about what libertaryans (only whites believe in this nonsense) think? True libertaryans are probably a smaller minority than we are. The difference in numbers being largely the result of who ruling class finds more threatening.
Richard,
A person with the power and authority to take someone against his will and forcibly give him a vascetomy, without any fear of civil or criminal retribution, is a person acting as the state. Morally, whether, or not, his actions are justified or proper is the question, and, whether, or not, he draws his paycheck from the state, or a corporation X isn’t even a tertiary concern. If any particular individual was subject to sterilization by corporation X then it would be entirely properly to say that he is governed by both the state and corporation X.
What you call IQ realism, I refer to as biological realism.
White Advocate,
Some time ago I read an article about why the industrial revolution started in England. One of the factors it gave was the lack of large amounts of cheap labour. This lead me to wonder if a robotics revolution has been forestalled by the large amounts of cheap (near slave) labour available today. For example, do you think that if there weren’t many Chinese available to assemble iPods they couldn’t be assembled by an automated process?
Or let’s take something more difficult: apple picking, even if the only way to automate this required sophisticated computer vision software I still think it would be able to be automated if this were necessary. After all, necessity is the mother of invention.
Are not those jobs that are insufferably boring precisely those most easily automated?
Richard stick to social commentary not policy advice. It would be electoral suicide for any pro-white party to tell a significant part of its electoral base that they plan to sterilize them.
The reality is that a pro-white party today has more support amongst those who’s IQ’s hover around the 90 range than the 120 range.
The IQ drop in the 19th century was caused by vastly different birth rates between the middle class and working class. Remove dysgenics caused government sponsorship of the welfare underclass and there is very little genetic drift, which can be reversed by positive voluntary means.
Richard,
It is actually not effective and even deleterious to forcefully intervene with the fertility of the left half of the curve. this is exactly what our enemies want us to do to discredit and monstrify us. Galton himself acknowledged that such interventions are of little importance. It is LESS eugenic than to boost fertility of the right part, for which you dont need to coerce anyone.
I would, also, note that the main problem with the fertility rate of intelligent White people is not that it is lower than that of dimmer Whites, or that of Negroes, or other non-Whites, but, rather, that it is below the replacement rate! If every other group of people other than intelligent Whites had lower rates of reproduction than intelligent Whites, and intelligent Whites maintained their current rates of reproduction, the human race would go extinct. It would be of little consolation that the last few humans on earth were bright White folks.
The real solution is finding a way for intelligent Whites to have fertility rates greater than replacement. That is no small task, but, if it were to succeed, we could focus on lowering the fertility rates of all other groups so that the descendants of intelligent White folks would populate the earth, and all other peoples would die off.
What can be done is for a politician to only call for a eugenics program for whites. Immediately, minorities such as blacks will claim that whites are trying to create a stupid negro race with a superior white race. They would demand a eugenics program for themselves and a nationwide eugenics program will be in effect. I’m probably being too optimistic in the outcome though.
You answer none of the libertarian objections to state-imposed eugenics. It is true that we now effectively have state-imposed dysgenics, but since libertarians are against this, it is irrelevant. Libertarians are against punishing people before they have committed a crime: this applies equally to those with a below-90 IQ and to those deemed to be mentally ill by the state. You incorrectly assume that libertarians regard locking up the latter to be acceptable.