May 30, 2009

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The Faileocons Strike Back:
Justin Raimondo Attacks White Nationalism on Takimag

Editor’s Note: Taki’s Magazine has published a venomous retort by Justin “Bizarro World” Raimondo of Antiwar.com to Jared Taylor’s Takimag breakthrough article. TOQ Online welcomes commentary and discussion.

Justin Raimondo

“Nationalists without a Nation”
by Justin Raimondo
from Taki’s Magazine, May 28, 2009

Jared Taylor’s recent posting on Takimag has drawn a number of a responses, including from Paul Gottfried and Richard Spencer, both of which make some good points. I’m afraid, however, that neither really hits on the essential problem—although Gottfried does mention it in passing, almost as an afterthought—which is that Taylor’s call for whites to organize along lines of “racial solidarity” represents the most complete and abject surrender to multi-culturalism. His bid to become the white Al Sharpton is not only a massive contradiction, coming from someone who ostensibly opposes privileging individuals on account of their alleged race, it is downright pathetic.

To being with, he avers that “if you can’t beat them, join them”—that is, if you can’t beat the multiculti rules and regulations that increasing afflict our lives, then the best policy is one of . . .  surrender.  He cites a case where the city of New Haven threw out the results of a test taken by aspiring firemen in which blacks didn’t do as well as the city would have liked. New Haven bureaucrats threw out the test results for all races, not just blacks, and did the whole procedure over again: this, claims Taylor, is anti-white “discrimination.” . . . More

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  1. It’s funny how we are always explained away as being ignorant or naive. While I don’t know Raimondo’s educational background, he strikes me as typical of most holders of liberal arts degrees. They took their obligatory “biology 101 for the non-science degree” and have never looked back. In truth people like him really have no grasp of what the WN cause is about. Check out Salter’s On Genetic Interests. You might learn something.

  2. I have to say, though I don’t always agree with Mr. Taylor or Mr. Raimondo, I like them both and enjoy visiting their sites.

    Raimondo does make some good points, but I’m always suspicious of name calling.

    [. . .]

    He uses words like “pathetic,” “nastiness,” etc. and then lets out a real howler with this line:

    This, of course, is just what the Obamaites ordered: they would love to marginalize their opposition and banish them to the fever swamps of race-obsessed neurotics and social misfits.

    Is he kidding? They don’t need any help from Jared Taylor to marginalize their opposition.

    Then he refers to some of the intellectuals associated with Taylor as “amateurs”:

    “That’s why they spend so much time posing as amateur “scientists” and “anthropologists,” extrapolating entire theories of social organization from the results of “intelligence tests” that presume to measure the ineffable.”

    I think he’s talking about Michael Levin, Richard Lynn, and Philippe Rushton, etc. I must say, I never got the impression they were trying to measure the ineffable, I thought they were attempting to explain the heaps and heaps of impossible to ignore data.

    Oh, and by the way Justin, Darwin was an “amateur” too. These Pop Culture Journalists just do not know their Cultural History.

    Also, JR’s question directed at Mr. Taylor could just as easily be turned around and directed at Raimondo, ie; What does HE want?

    He does give us an idea here with this:

    Taylor’s is the legacy of Lothrop Stoddard, Madison Grant, the Count de Gobineau, and that failed portrait painter from Vienna: ours is the legacy of Christianity, which recognized the centrality of the individual soul, and rejects collectivism, including racial collectivism, as inimical to freedom, reason, and just relations among men.

    I have shared some of my thoughts on Mr. Taylor, most favorable, and some not, in my comments at his site and his staff didn’t seem to have a problem posting them.

    But the overall impression I get from him is that he is fighting for Freedom of Association. What’s wrong with that?

    Now, I must say that, though I am not a Christian, a Liberal, or a Conservative, I like very much what JR said about Christianity, the Individual Soul, and the rejection of Collectivism over Individuality.

    But what I really think we are talking about here is the simple pressures of the Culture Crisis we find ourselves in today. A Crisis that has thrown an unlikely group of White people together, like Mr. Raimondo, Jared Taylor, the Occidental Observer family, and posters like myself.

    My point is that the PC Leviathan is going to lump us all together because their argument, their explanation for life, is so threadbare, so hopelessly, crudely over-simplified, that they simply can not allow us to participate in an open dialogue because their entire explanatory system will go crumbling to the ground in a matter of seconds.

    They are going to end up having to convert Whites into either Obedient Servants of the PC Multi-Culti Leviathan, or Designated Scapegoats, or worse. The rest of us I suppose will be given an eviction notice and a one way ticket to the dark side of the moon, if we’re lucky.

    If the interpretation offered here is at all on the right track, then Mr. Raimondo will be forced to revise his opinion considerably, and much sooner than later.

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