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The Forbidden Identity

The Forbidden Identity

I met Jared Taylor again recently at the National Policy Institute’s 2011 conference in Washington D.C., where we were both speakers.

We then coincided at a brunch that was held the morning after the event. As I was to take a flight back to the United Kingdom in the afternoon, and as his base is on the way to the airport, he suggested I take an early cab and stop by for a visit later in the day.

I accepted his invitation, and ordered a cab to collect me from the hotel at the appointed time.

The cab driver was a 46-year-old immigrant from Egypt, tall, slender, dark, with a lightbulb head. He had been in the United States for 16 years, during which time he had become a citizen, having previously worked for a five-star hotel in Saudi Arabia. From what he told me, he had been involved in the services industry all or most his working life, first in the hospitality business, and later in his present occupation, transporting live humans.

He told me that he had moved to the United States in order to rake in the cash, that he had sent his wife and children back to Egypt in order to spare them the West’s corrupting influence, that he intended to bring them over to America once they completed their secondary education, that he would put them through university there, and that he intended them to remain in America, where they would become citizens, so that they too could rake in the cash. As to himself, he would eventually return to Egypt and start a business there. He added that although living in the United States had transformed his life for the better, his heart was and would always be in Egypt. He put his palm over his cardiac muscle and looked to the sky as he thought of his homeland.

In due course this amiable conversation turned to more pressing matters, as the cab driver got lost. Without a satnav, and relying on a printout from Google Maps, he drove us in the wrong direction for lightyears, perplexed by Google’s elliptical instructions, before finally turning around and stopping at a petrol station to ask for directions. (While I waited, I noticed prognathous Hispanics, shod in rubber flipflops, idling in the parking bays immediately in front of the shop, joking casually and munching snacks; they only moved when the cab driver shoved them aside with his Lincoln.)

Armed with new instructions, my Egyptian driver headed towards Jared’s green and pleasant woodland suburb. There, however, he got lost again, and he drove us up and down a main road four times, forsaken by Google, until he telephoned my host to get further instructions. The situation became comical, since poor Jared, otherwise an accomplished linguist and polyglot, could barely understand the driver, who butchered every street name in his heavily accented English.

‘Menrod. Am in menrod,’ he said.

The Egyptian had to repeat himself twelve times before his pronunciation could be decyphred.

But, eventually, we made it.

I asked for a discount to my fare, which was granted—I think the driver was about to offer it anyway. I caught a crease on his brown forehead as he turned to leave, shaking his head, annoyed with himself.

‘I thought a lot about you on the way here,’ I told Jared. Indeed, the incident seemed an oddly appropriate staging for White Identity, the Virginian’s most recent book, which I obtained during my visit.

White Identity: Racial Consciousness in the 21st Century is a sequel of its author’s earlier book, Paved with Good Intentions: The Failure of Race Relations in Contemporary America.

The book is everything I expected it to be: elegant, measured, well argued, accessible, and vacuum-packed with information.

The latter is, without a doubt, the tome’s most salient feature, for the author backs up his theses with such a profusion of examples that it becomes impossible not to see it as missionary zeal, despite the sober prose. The examples range from the infuriating to the grotesque, and in some cases the situations or incidents described are so ridiculous that they would be risible, were they not so tragic.

White Identity contains little about White racial identity. This is because these days there is generally no such thing. There is plenty, however, about Black and Hispanic identity in it, which the author argues is normal, natural, and good—except, of course, for Whites in the United States. Because said Whites have unilaterally disarmed themselves while simultaneously arming their competition out of fondness for universalist abstractions.

The main argument of White Identity is that in a world where everyone else thinks in terms of race and pursues their racial interests, Whites will need to rediscover theirs if they are to avoid being eaten alive by racially conscious groups.

In turn, the main assumption behind the book is that it will be read by Whites and that enough of them will be persuaded by its contents to reassess the value of an egalitarian diversity ideology. This assumption belies a secondary one: that anger at and frustration with the negative effects of diversity will eventually cause Whites to develop racial consciousness. The more fundamental assumption, therefore, is that humans think and act rationally.

But of course, this is not the case, as otherwise there would not have been any need to write White Identity.

Consequently, there is a depressing contradiction between the book’s cause and its intended effect. This broken causality chain means that, for all its merits, the book will fail to achieve its objectives: it will be read by those already favourably predisposed to its author or his worldview, by the author’s existing fans, and by ideological enemies seeking to scare people away from identifying with its theses; and readers outside these categories will, if they are ever allowed to catch a glimpse of the book, content themselves with imagining what it says based on what they know or think they know about the author.

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hip advice”>relationship advicee lack of a way forward has already been noted by another reviewer, and results from an ultimate belief in the rationality of man.

That aside, White Identity makes two valuable contributions.

Firstly, and as has already been noted, it collates in a convenient, single volume a wealth of data from innumerable news and scientific sources. It is, in fact, fully comprehensive on diversity as a weakness. This makes it a powerful armamentarium for anyone desiring to impress debating this issue. It is very much its author’s brainchild, as Jared Taylor’s effectiveness in debate results from, besides his polish and intelligence, his ability endlessly to back up his arguments with precise data.

Secondly, it implicitly articulates the notion that Enlightenment ideals are only viable in homogeneous societies composed of White Westerners. This was not the author’s intention, but follows from his historical overview of White racial consciousness in the United States.

For the author, two centuries of coexistence between White racial consciousness and the Enlightenment ideals of the U.S. constitution rules out fundamental contradictions between them, and in quoting statements by the country’s founders he seeks to illustrate that they never intended to create a universal proposition nation, as Marxist revisionists and forgers pretend. Jared Taylor’s point is that they were racially conscious as Whites and that this consciousness was normal and natural up until fifty years ago.

Yet, it is clear from their statements that the founders did not think their Enlightenment project was compatible with a racially heterogeneous society, for they generally advocated either segregation or shipping the Black labourers back to Africa. They were enlightened in that they knew humans are different and are best in free societies that reflect their innate temperament and abilities because they are governed by people who are similar.

And it was not simply that the country’s founders thought genetically distant peoples could not be assimilated into a White European society, but also that their Enlightenment values were dangerous in the presence of Blacks, for, as some noted, Blacks did not internalise these values and only took advantage of the Whites who lived by them.

Thus, while White Identity does not directly address the question of why Whites lost their racial identity, it does glimpse an answer supplementary to those presented by Pat Buchanan in The Death of the West and Kevin MacDonald in the Culture of Critique. The latter author, particularly, stresses how enlightened rhetoric was hijacked by ethnic activists on the radical Left.

The problem lies not so much in ideological enemies or racial competition, for these are facts of life that will never go away. The problem lies with the Enlightenment values themselves, for their inbuilt universalist logic, irrespective of how they were interpreted in the past by Whites who had racial consciousness, in time inescapably leads to borderless, multiracial proposition societies. And this, in a world of instant mass communication, rapid motorised transport, globalised electronic commerce, exploding Third World populations, and ever more intense competition for resources, is a mechanism for self-destruction.

This is perhaps why White Identity cannot, rather than simply does not, show a way forward: it is ultimately predicated on Enlightenment values, while the way forward would necessitate abandoning those values, which in the United States would mean also abrogating the country’s constitution and rethinking it all from zero—inconceivable without secession or a total systemic meltdown.

What to do, then?

Some Americans have proposed secession and founding a White ethnostate. But this is only applicable in the United States and seems unlikely without Whites regaining their racial consciousness, followed by another civil war. And Whites will not regain any racial consciousness so long as it remains socially unacceptable for them.

Others, both in America and Europe, have pursued identity politics. This, however, is unlikely to prosper since politics makes possible only what is already widely accepted within the culture—it does not change the culture on its own.

In all cases, these proposals are flawed because they seek to change outward forms before changing inner substance.

Before White identity can be revived and political solutions can grow, it will be necessary to seed the culture with a different set of concepts, principles, and ideals, and to fertilise it with the right combination of emotional triggers: creative movements, intellectual currents, organising strategies, alternative self-reinforcing networks and status systems, and so on.

It is worth noting that if völkisch politics were successful (if flawed) in the past, it was only after dozens of artists, novelists, musicians, philosophers, sociologists, scientists, and mystics, not to mention a plethora of study groups, societies, clubs, and other organisations, along with publishers and publicists, had spent a century laying the groundwork. It was a slow, organic process that built an alternative society from the bottom up—an alternative society that was technologically advanced, but with long roots in ancient tradition.

Of course, we do not have the luxury of a hundred years, as they did, or as did the Left, who had no demographic sunset to contend with, but we do have the technological means to do the good work within a shorter timeframe. In a technologically advanced society, history is constantly accelerating. It will, nevertheless, take time to develop the synergies.

As the Enlightenment project, deformed as it is, continues to rush towards its logical extreme, the means will have to be found to retard its progress, for only when the cultural ground has been made viable for any kind of White identity will such an identity be viable enough to become a political force.

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  1. In the most respectful way possible, I disagree with this statement:

    “White Identity contains little about White racial identity. This is because these days there is generally no such thing.”

    Tens of thousands of us every day start thoughts with “As a white person, I…” and then switch to “As a Constitutionalist/Conservative/Libertarian/Republican, I…”

    We simply mask our identification with the diverse white Americans by using an identification with some political or religious ideology. And the people who do it are called on it by opponents.

    We simply need to learn to attackback against those who attack us for using our white voice, and cultivate the white voice in a white-centric way. And get over the nattering of those in the multi-racial society.

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      Cyprian Korzeniowski said:

      Tens of thousands of us every day start thoughts with “As a white person, I…” and then switch to “As a Constitutionalist/Conservative/Libertarian/Republican, I…”

      We simply mask our identification with the diverse white Americans by using an identification with some political or religious ideology. And the people who do it are called on it by opponents.

      But as a Constitutionalist, Conservative, etc. you are negating whiteness, since anyone can be an adherent of these political ideologies, abstracted from race as they are. Certainly, these ideologies attract whites far and above members of other races, such that it is a rare and surprising thing when we see a black conservative. By masking whiteness, one negates it, shoves it in the closet, and makes abstract principles more important than race. One should also note that these ideologies do not treat the subject of race aside from denying it, considering it a social construct, culturally based, etc. They are called racists anyways, because it is a powerful shut up word, and most public figures are very frightened of it. Ted Kennedy wore the Mark of Cain, but imagine if he was called a racist!

      I do think that there needs to be the creation of a new, dynamic white culture as opposed to simply reclaiming whiteness past. As much as I enjoy old books and music, centering a culture around the dead past won’t appeal to most people. Instead, we should draw on the best of the old when creating the new. The current, mainstream implicitly white ideologies as they are are not merely deracinated, but hostile to white identity.

      We simply need to learn to attackback against those who attack us for using our white voice, and cultivate the white voice in a white-centric way. And get over the nattering of those in the multi-racial society.

      Agreed. Whites should eloquently, but boldly and shamelessly speak as whites.

      Mr. Kurtagic ~ I agree with your criticism that White Identity offers no way forward. It does provide a veritable bombardment of facts which argue against a multi-racial society. Written as it is, I believe it is a good book to buy and lend out to open minded friends who realize that there are racial problems in the West, but have never ventured outside mainstream discourse. This will not lead to any mass awakening, but it is a start.

      (As an aside, I think you may have the peculiar distinction of having covered the experience of taxi rides gone awry more than any other writer.)

      • Cyprian;

        I don’t think you understood what Bo was getting at. He wasn’t advocating abandoning the White voice, White centericity, or White identification.

        Bo was making the point that many of us “get out of bed” thinking White, but then, out of fear or for whatever reason, switch to using these other labels because they are not so risky.

        Bo is not advising you to stay away from White Centricity, he’s prodding you to stay WITH it.

        To learn how to resist “other-centricity”, and how to attackback people who slur, stereotype and hate-caricature White people, visit http://www.resistingdefamation.org You will also get hints on how to speak in an authentically White manner without getting into “trouble”.

  2. Yes, a thousand times yes. The following statement is the key to everything, and in a recent review of the book Primetime Propaganda, Dr. MacDonald said as much, when he wrote, a bit flippantly but absolutely accurately: “Get rich. Buy media”:

    Before White identity can be revived and political solutions can grow, it will be necessary to seed the culture with a different set of concepts, principles, and ideals, and to fertilise it with the right combination of emotional triggers: creative movements, intellectual currents, organising strategies, alternative self-reinforcing networks and status systems, and so on.

  3. avatar
    Yggdrasil said:

    “The problem lies not so much in ideological enemies or racial competition, for these are facts of life that will never go away. The problem lies with the Enlightenment values themselves, for their inbuilt universalist logic, irrespective of how they were interpreted in the past by Whites who had racial consciousness, in time inescapably leads to borderless, multiracial proposition societies. And this, in a world of instant mass communication, rapid motorised transport, globalised electronic commerce, exploding Third World populations, and ever more intense competition for resources, is a mechanism for self-destruction.”

    Bravissimo!!!

  4. There is nothing in this article about Christianity. That is a remarkable omission and explains much.

  5. avatar
    Frank Bousek said:

    The preservation of White Race and Christianity are mutually exclusive concepts. Wasn’t the enlighted western world just falling all over itself with saving christians in Darfur ?

  6. The problem lies with the Enlightenment values themselves, for their inbuilt universalist logic, irrespective of how they were interpreted in the past by Whites who had racial consciousness, in time inescapably leads to borderless, multiracial proposition societies.

    -So enlightenment values ultimately led to the 1965 immigration act? What would you replace enlightenment values with?

  7. Here’s a perspective on Mr Kurtagic’s assertion that there is “no such thing as White Identity”: He is correct, but only insofar as when White Identity is reduced to that which constitutes black or Hispanic identity. It is fallacious to make this comparison, because White Identity relates to black (or any other) identity in the manner an ocean relates to a species of fish. Black and Hispanic sub-identities are but small, insignificant and hugely overrepresented bubbles in the massive ocean of White Identity.

    White identity, or *culture* is race gone to seed. This is evident when looking at Western cities with their magnificent monuments, and high tech glass & metal skyscrapers. Technology, architecture, art, science…you name it – this is what defines White Identity. That which define black identity are but slums and dark spots of cancerous infestations within our magnificent White cities & contemporary culture.

    Just because MTV et al have packaged that which represents “black culture” with its frenzied, hate-filled gangster rap, bitches, hoes, mofo’s and other reprehensive aberrations into a marketable and seemingly fashionable genre, and then sold it on to gullible White kids, does not mean that it represents a justifiable (or even remotely viable) comparison to what we’re blindly and desperately grasping around for to term “White Identity”. Failing to see the woods for the trees comes to mind…

    White Identity has almost completely colonised the world in every respect, and almost on every level. English is the Lingua Franca, Western clothing such as suits are de rigeur, and furthermore, White Identity has comprehensively and totally colonised the minds of non whites, who drive White-invented cars, use White-invented computers, iPods and mobile phones, whilst paradoxically professing to hate and detest everything and anything White. Their entire existence is defined and constrained by the products of White minds.

    However, White Identity / Culture has largely failed to seed morality, ethics, compassion, tolerance, self-reliance, initiative and an entrepreneurial spirit amongst particularly black and Hispanic races, hundreds of years of missionary toil notwithstanding. If one agrees that “culture is race gone to seed”, the impossible futility of the latter becomes self-evident.

    I would daresay this angst over the supposed non existence of a White Identity is a myopic fallacy, borne from excessive MSM fixation on ludicrous and tenuous manifestations of utterly contrived black or Hispanic sub identities. We must cease being blind-sided by it, and instead focus on that which defines our greatness. Here’s the thing with White kids: many will listen to rap, dress like pimps and speak like gangsters, but in the end most will defeat the hostile memes and come around to their core Whiteness. Anguishing over the few who don’t is pointless – viewed with stoicism, as collateral damage in our racial struggle for lebensraum.

    Our duty is to create & perpetuate benign memes of pride and racial consciousness, to buttress and gently nurture that greatness and racial awareness which lies inherent and often dormant, within Whites.

    • Good points!

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      AnalogMan said:

      UG, never thought to encounter your writing again – if, indeed, you are the same Uhuru Guru formerly of SA Sucks blog. Your writing has matured.

      Off the top of my head, I wonder if you’re not getting this the wrong way around. Yes, the whole world has adopted the artifacts of Western (White) civilization. But that’s like the subtle difference between seed and fruit. The whole world wants the fruits of White culture, while at the same time wanting to root out the seed – the race that created them. We see them all wearing the trappings of White culture, and we think: It’s a world culture. We are all the same! And that’s where we lose our identity.

      Japan and China and Korea have gotten quite good at mimicking and even improving the technological achievements of the West – i.e. Whites. Many think they will eclipse us. But whatever they or anyone else builds to succeed us, it will not be Western civilization. Not even if it wears three-piece suits and uses computers. Only White people could build it (which is what you were saying), and only White people can maintain it. It’s a fatal mistake to think that a Japanese businessman in a suit is culturally, or in any sense, White.

      When some stupid Babuntu in Africa drives a White-invented car, that’s not culture; it’s an artifact. I recently saw a White student at Stellenbosch University (!) walking around with his underpants sticking out. Thats “kulcha”. And although, as you say, most will outgrow this fixation with simian behaviour, I can’t accept the Eloi-like acceptance of the ones who don’t. We need separation. Nothing else will do.

  8. “White Identity” contains little about White racial identity. This is because these days there is generally no such thing.

    Indeed.

    And other than very general ideas about “Christendom” or the British Empire their never has been. White elites have no sense of of solidarity whatsoever with the white proletariat. If you think that the members of your town’s oldest golf club or those worthies who formerly made up such institutions as the German General Staff or the English House of Lords wanted to have anything to do with you on a personal basis more than the absolutely necessary minimum; or even more unthinkably, have you even approach within hailing distance of their marriageable daughters you are deluded.

    And on sober reflection I can only concur with their policies. Whenever we have had mass white nationalist movements replete with their certain concomitant democratic enthusiasms the result has been and inexorable spread of widespread horror and mass murder. Even modern history gives us plenty of gruesome examples be it the 30 Years War, the French Revolution replete with a subsequent and seemingly inevitable Bonapartism running amok, World War I, or the massive destruction and ruin delivered upon white culture wrought by jumped-up psychotic demagogues such as Hitler and Stalin.

    Give me the Habsburgs over the horrors of “white nationalisms” any day.

    • avatar
      Whites Unite said:

      Give me the triumphant acheivements of Andrew Jackson’s White America over the stagnant sobbery of the hapsburgs anyday!

      • “Give me the triumphant acheivements of Andrew Jackson’s White America over the stagnant sobbery of the hapsburgs anyway!”

        WTF is triumphant about a bunch of pig ignorant Scots-Irish Presbyterians and Baptists displacing the Cherokees to Oklahoma just so that they could fight for the rich Tidewater planters who hated their guts anyway?

        Andrew Jackson = 600,000 whites uselessly slaughtered for a bunch of snot-nosed Virginia and Carolina aristos. Some “triumphant achievement” that was. This country hasn’t recovered from the disaster even yet.

    • Rudel,

      Sorry, but the indigenous elites of yore in their failure to maintain a sustainable symbiotic relationship with their folk deserve rejection and revolt as surely as our invasive elites. It’s all well and good for the elites to be snobbish and exclusive, providing that they demonstrate a basic degree of stewardship. Short of that, the survival of the folk upon which the elites subsist depends on revolt.

      And if some artifacts of White High Culture get toppled in the process of securing a future in which both High and Low Culture remain, then so be it. This whole situation could have been avoided had one single faction within our Ancien Regime mounted a credible response to Modernity. They’re decadent, derelict, obsolete, and aren’t even delivering on the High Culture anymore.

      • avatar
        Mustapha Mond said:

        “It’s all well and good for the elites to be snobbish and exclusive, providing that they demonstrate a basic degree of stewardship. Short of that, the survival of the folk upon which the elites subsist depends on revolt.”

        The survival of the masses upon which the elites depend in the Brave New World of sophisticated technology rests on the the elites continually embracing those among the masses (6 billion+ strong) with IQ’s registering at a minimum of at least 110 irrespective of race (and this minimum required native intellectual talent can only by necessity keep rising.) Unfortunately that leaves out a substantial number of white Southern Baptists and Disciples of Christ. The elites of the 22nd century will have more Han genes than those inherited from Nascar aficionados or African tribesman.

        I am certainly all for game reserves where African Bushmen, or New Guinea and Yanomami tribesman can live in a semi-natural state (alas it will hardly be possible to to wean them from steel knives and spearpoints) but if you think those under the left hand curve of human IQ distribution have any social use whatsoever even now, then you are completely out of touch with reality.

        The current elites will even further distance themselves from the betas, gammas, deltas et al. and will intermarry and miscegenate at even higher rates. (As much as I appreciate the classic Nordic looks of Grace Kelly there is no denying the sex appeal of the Polish-Irish-Vietnamese movie star Margaret Denise Quigley.) But please don’t let me discourage any white elitists from keeping up the color line. Just don’t send your daughters to someplace like Wellesley where even if they somehow remain heterosexual they will still be sure to end up fornicating with Jews.

        As for “High European Culture” being doomed, I see no letup in world prices for Old Masters or even a falling off in subscription rates to the current season of baroque and roccoco chamber music concerts in even the most provincial of cities.

        And Parrott, you really need to get with it, this is modern high art and it’s brilliant :

        http://americanart.si.edu/images/1971/1971.84.137_1a.jpg

        BTW, and as an aside to any sapient TOQ readers, it’s not too late to invest in Allan D’Arcangelo at decent prices for the more farsighted collectors among you.

        • avatar
          Yggdrasil said:

          “The current elites will even further distance themselves from the betas, gammas, deltas et al. and will intermarry and miscegenate at even higher rates.”

          That conclusion presupposes a number of conditions that do not, in fact, exist.

          First, you are assuming a steady state in the rate of immigration to the U.S. and to Europe that is unlikely to continue.

          Second, you are assuming a steady state in the economy of the Western world, especially the financial system – cradle of the elite – that remains pretty much as it is, without being brought to heel by crisis and insolvency.

          Third, you are assuming that there will be places left at the top for white skinned people once the Chinese and Asian mischlings you admire so own and take over Goldman Sachs and the fortune 500. In the real world outside of the U.S. Asians are remarkably racially conscious. The political preferences of Whites with intelligence and talent will change dramatically once they find that they are blocked off from positions within the elite.

          Finally, you assume that this mischling elite of yours will have the power to control political entrepreneurs representing the brown skinned Gammas once they become a majority and begin electing their own to national office. You assume that America and the west will not end up like one massive Detroit – without a functioning economy and where the elected Papa Docs can get elected no matter what they do.

          We are well on our way to that result now, and one must anticipate significant changes in “elite” opinion as that process unfolds.

          Group resource competition and conflict are a permanent part of the human condition.

          • Dear Ygg, you write:

            “First, you are assuming a steady state in the rate of immigration to the U.S. and to Europe”

            “Second, you are assuming a steady state in the economy of the Western world, especially the financial system”

            Positing, for arguments sake, a long economic downturn along the lines of the Great Depression as one having a reasonably average probability of occurring; I still see only a leveling off or at best a short-term hiatus in Chinese-Hindu-mestizo migration to the US/Canada and Afro-Asiatic migration into the European homeland.

            “The political preferences of Whites with intelligence and talent will change dramatically once they find that they are blocked off from positions within the elite.”

            Even if trends continue and whites congregate geographically and vote Republican in an increasingly monolithic and electorally wise fashion politically, there will still have to be a radical increase in white fertility (and not just among elite cohorts) to have any real lasting effect demographically. I am not at all convinced that there is not a naturally selected for innate human behavior for lowering fertility rates in times of economic plenty. iPhones, LED big screens, and turbo-diesel BMW ski-wagons seem to have put Thomas Malthus squarely on his head.

            As for Asians eschewing miscegenation I have certainly not seen any reluctance among Chinese or Japanese women to marrying white Alpha and Beta+ males when the opportunity presents itself.

            “you assume that this mischling elite of yours will have the power to control political entrepreneurs representing the brown skinned Gammas”

            I assume we will continue to see an escalating level of vicious political repression of the kind already being waged by the well trained multi-ethnic forces of the existing establishment’s “central airborne police.” (pace Arthur Keith) ;-)

            Further internal contradictions in the human condition on this planet will see the ruthless implementation of every single scientific and dystopian horror that the human mind can conceive of, including clone armies, genetic engineering of the most grotesque and fantastical sort, more nuclear explosions, autonomous killing machines, cybernetic organisms, and artificial life forms devoid of any sense of empathy, justice, or mercy.

            There will certainly be strong political factions who will advocate for the elimination of all Gammas from the gene pool let alone their political exploiters (brown skinned or otherwise.)

            One only needs to look at recent history to be totally convinced of the inevitability of all of this. (Or perhaps you are placing your bets on the UN or League of Nations?)

            What I don’t expect to see is the cozy return of Anglo-Saxon supremacy, amateur cricket, 7 club golf bags, the British Navy, debutante balls, and long Edwardian hunting and shooting week ends.

            In the meantime I recommend you re-read your Thomas Hobbes while I remain faithfully yours,

            Mustapha Mond

  9. avatar
    tma_sierrahills said:

    Excellent review of an excellent book.

  10. @ Rudel “…Andrew Jackson = 600,000 whites uselessly slaughtered for a bunch of snot-nosed Virginia and Carolina aristos. Some “triumphant achievement” that was. This country hasn’t recovered from the disaster even yet….”

    Clearly, you’ve never read any serious books about the war.

    But lol, the Yankee Nation that won with its mercenaries, its 40% foreign born rag-tag crew, this sick dictatorship, this “Rule of Law,” this bizarre conflation of foreign theocrats who seem to know so little about where they landed– blaming the long-gone puritans, while being theocrats themselves, whether jewish zionists or catholic natioanlists, haggling for the rights to collect the dough from the ‘consumer worker labor units’ their war created (and LOL, in the very place they simultaneously de-industrialized, just as they de-colonized) for the Warfare-Welfare Statist vision underwritten by the socializing media drivel of the new left.

    Now that’s something to be proud of, lol!

    I dare say, the Yankee Nation, more than most, has managed to offer just about the worst of all possible worlds. The greasy mercantilism of the Northeast, whether from the imported theocrats, the old puritans, the old trading companies (no one mentions them, lol)— haggling merchants without merchandise! Time is money, yields, productivity! The consumer, the little do-gooder corporatist who can “go-go/get-get”, the grand internationale! It is an Economic Nation and everything is just money to them. ARe they even like people?

    Trouble is, these yankees have no inheritable wealth, just money— no history, no bond, no coherent narrative, no mythology, no oral traditions. When I was in school in the Northeast, we outsiders would call the types there ‘culture vultures’ and euro-trash and names s/a that, b/c they were like nothing from nowhere, and they thought that was the best thing of all. The southerns were not like that.

    Of course, no one dares explore the real coalitions that sought to destroy the south, and with it seek to destroy the Agrarian Ideal, the rural ideals, the connections with nature, so unknown in the cities and seemingly in the smaller countries, the complete ignorance of unbridled freedoms and capacity to think and to feel—the way they do not have in the North.

    The Northeast Ethos is merely a self-justifying boastful sort of thing, and hopefully their Yankee Nation will meet —hardly the conclusions of the “enlightenment” the way particular sub-groups are taught to name it— but the conclusions of their own folly, the hate the outsiders brought to the states, the ignorance, the projections of whatever they had just left, recreating some miserable way of life the others could not ever have imagined—

    They simply had to replay europe, to mire a better and freer and better-spirited peoples in their tired old fights, to drag them down where they lived—

    What’s so great about all that? About all the pompous little bureaucrats and whiny-snot-nosed Mommy Professors and diatribes on their little radio shows about the stupid fat ignorant “americans,” the flyover country, the freak-show little wasps, the heretics, the “wasp question,” the blah, blah, blah, etc…

    What is the difference between that and what your average academic commie?

    And how should southerners and appalachians and americans— respond to the ignorance about their real lives?

    At any rate—- years of subjugation of that south— and you are blaming them still, just like blacks going on about slavery, or jews about their holocaust, or mexicans about texas, or whatever.

    Mr. Taylor’s books are generally very good, and I will read this one.

  11. As for the idea of an all white “ethnostate”, it seems incredibly utopic, and I cringe at the thought of all the unnecessary mayhem it would take to get there. I hope, for your movement’s sake, that it’s only a “break in case of emergency” situation in case of the sudden rise of black supremacy. I would not assume that such an ethnostate would be a perfect paradise either.

    Let’s be honest here: when a white person and a black person have a child, the white parent’s genes don’t just disappear into oblivion. The overall genetic composition will change, but it is indeed impossible to keep a perfectly stable genome forever. That is not “defeatism” as much as a simple truth. Even if one was to keep an entirely white ethnostate and try to preserve it for as long as possible, given enough time it would inevitably break up into more racial groups. If one adds into this the impact of (the much more malleable) environmental factors, you get a clear picture that an ethnostate is not necessary in order to build a civilized society.

    There is nothing wrong with having a minority of people of a different race as long as they are civilized and part of the dominant culture (If “culture” in this case simply means sharing things such as common values, clothes, jobs), and there are plenty of non-whites who fit that bill quite nicely. As there are plenty of whites who do not, I may add, and whom you may have far less in common with then a given non-white.

    • “Let’s be honest here: when a white person and a black person have a child, the white parent’s genes don’t just disappear into oblivion. The overall genetic composition will change, but it is indeed impossible to keep a perfectly stable genome forever.”

      You’re a funny guy, was that jewish humour?

  12. “The more fundamental assumption, therefore, is that humans think and act rationally.
    But of course, this is not the case, as otherwise there would not have been any need to write White Identity.”

    Up to now, there hasn’t been need to engage white identity. The American world worked just as well without establishing our own self-adoration temples in academia, national organizations with lobbying capability or information/entertainment outlets to minister specifically to our worldview. As dominant group in this country, it was assumed “mainstream” reality reflected us, what we believe, how we think and act. But things change. With media as indication, white gentile values and perspective have been degraded and demonized for decades now. In a world market, we are but one demographic, and although most of the world wants to emulate us, that fascination has a churlish, reactive side. It’s natural to feel antagonism in such arrangement, since it implies acceptance that imitated model is superior. No one lines up north of the border to illegally immigrate south, no one voluntarily moves to a ghetto, no one has plastic surgery to look anything other than Northern European. Yet in our reframed cultural vision, white gentiles also are the beast, racist haters, the colossus of world evil. This love hate/relationship is what drives both our divisions and establishes points of contact within social transaction.

    Rational thinking, like almost everything else, is derivative of necessity. As our numbers amount to smaller slice of the population pie, that need may present itself. Our social formula is transitory, turbulent and fragile. It depends solely upon economic prosperity and culture that is narcotically infantile. But, as noted, things change.

    America never was an “ethno-state”. Such nations are unsustainable in today’s world. If Israel is any example, they are islands of flint and sandpaper in seas of jet fuel.

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