Dec 19, 2010

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The Shape of the Future

The Shape of the Future

The “Secession is a Bad Idea” post certainly got the pot boiling over here at TOQ.

But I would like all of you to take a step back and look at the bigger picture.

We all react powerfully to the videos of helicopter gun ships blasting groups of supposed “terrorists” on the ground in central Asia. We react equally to videos of very expensive munitions fired from drones that slaughter groups of these supposed “terrorists”.

I say “supposed” for the simple reason that the men being slaughtered happen to be half way around the World from us, and have no visible means of getting to our shores unless we provide the means. Indeed, if the population of the U.S. were entirely homogeneous and light skinned, there would be little fear of terrorism simply because we could not see any of these central Asian Muslims around us.

Thus, the fear of terror would be implausible, and support for trillion dollar expenditures to support a vast anti-terror bureaucracy is very much at risk, unless that anti-terror bureaucracy—coincident with the bombings and slaughters—imported relatives of the victims to circulate among us and make the threat of domestic terror visible, and hence support for the anti-terror machine and its trillion dollar budgets plausible.

As usual, multiculturalism is always and everywhere a means by which a minority can impose its will and its system of social control by pitting one group against another.

But the key to survival in this modern world is to see the pieces of the puzzle that are in plain view right in front of you and from their shape, accurately deduce the shape and nature of the pieces of the puzzle that are not visible.

For example: is it necessarily true that the regime would use helicopter gun ships and air to ground rockets fired from drones to exterminate domestic revolutionaries? Would the regime need to “go loud” like this and risk alarming the neighbors and waking them from their stupor?

So what is it about the populations that do get bombed and strafed that might differentiate them from us. After all, while they get bombed and strafed, racialists in the U.S. are free to fly unhindered; we are treated with extraordinary courtesy during traffic stops; and are typically let go with a smile and a warning (no snickering or winks and nods from the Cat 3 peanut gallery please!). Despite early attempts to shut down racialist web sites, the powers that be are allowing them to multiply like mushrooms in spring rain during recent years.

In similar fashion, there is a huge commerce in firearms—mostly assault rifles—that the regime tolerates with total equanimity.

Is there a unifying characteristic of those differing people who get bombs dropped on them from safe altitudes? Anything beyond the simple fact that they hate the regime because they supposedly “hate our freedom”, while we hate the regime because of our loss of freedom?

Let me make a radical suggestion.

The populations of Iraq, Afghanistan and Serbia do share a common characteristic. And it is obviously not the Muslim religion or brown skin color. Serbia is the “Ethiopian in the fuel supply” that tips us off to the shape and nature of the puzzle pieces that are not visible.

Serbs are as White as Austrians, and they are Eastern Orthodox Christians, heroes who for centuries have repelled invasions of numerous Asian and Muslim hordes seeking to invade Europe.

But at the time of our most excellent adventure over the skies of Serbia, they maintained an autarchic economy and did not participate in the Western banking system. In short, while Serbia, Iraq and Afghanistan may have had local banks, and while varying percentages of their populations may have had bank accounts and credit cards—scaling from perhaps a majority in Serbia, to a minority in Iraq, to a miniscule number in Afghanistan—neither the Serbian, the Iraqi nor the Afghan banking arrangements were within the reach of Interpol or the FBI (which, curiously, seems to operate worldwide).

One day several years ago I walked into a branch of Wells Fargo and sat down to chat with the branch manager. I asked her whether the FBI could simply erase my checking account, and if so would they have to notify the bank first. She said that the FBI has a direct electronic connection to the accounts at that bank and every other bank that is a member of the Federal Reserve System and they can delete or freeze an account at any time without ever having to notify the bank.

Then I said, “How about my investment account with your brokerage subsidiary? Same answer. They can delete or freeze it electronically and they do not need to tell us why. (Same with your credit card and debit card, by the way.)

If they were to do that, the victim could not sell his house and collect the proceeds, and he would not have the means to hire a lawyer and file for relief in Federal Court. He would be immobilized, unable to purchase an airline ticket, and unable to fill the gas tank in the car or buy food.

What could a fellow do under those circumstances? Go complain to the neighbors that all his accounts have been deleted by the government and risk getting himself committed to a mental institution? From the regime's perspective it sure beats having a helicopter gun ship scare the crap out of the neighbors by strafing and demolishing someone’s house, killing him with 20mm cannon fire!

Lets back out for a larger look at the numbers.

In the U.S., we have approximately 55 million adults who are on welfare and we have another 30 million adults who are receiving and are dependent upon Social Security/Old Age benefits. This group is completely under the thumb of the regime. A cancellation of the automatic deposit or a failure to reload the plastic food card would cast any individual revolutionary in this group into the hedge rows to starve. And the government knows exactly who these people are.

Next, look at the number of people with credit card debt. Odds are overwhelming that these people are loyal “consumers” and have no stash of cash or precious metals that could see them through an account deletion. Again any dissident individual in this category could be immobilized and would starve in the hedge rows.

The gold dealers and gold bug websites estimate that only one half of one percent of the population owns physical gold or silver. All large purchases of gold or silver must be made by wire or credit card, so the regime has a pretty good handle on who has substantial stashes of the metal. There may be some extraordinarily disciplined savers that buy a few hundred dollars worth of silver rounds every month with cash, but those are almost certainly confined to those who have no credit card debt, narrowing the pool in which to search for suspects.

Similarly, cash withdrawals from banks are monitored, and any sudden large cash withdrawals must be reported as suspicious by the teller. An army fights on its stomach, as the saying goes, and it would take massive amounts of cash or sales of precious metals in order to finance the movement of a few thousand men to the Pacific Northwest. Why do you think that in the latest “Patriot” Act the government required 1099 filings for sales of precious metals back to dealers?

They are watching for this, and any sudden pattern of cash withdrawals or physical metal sales would be detected and correlated with lists of known dissidents and with the individuals who show up on the carefully mapped neural networks of persons who call or email these known dissidents. The regime doesn't care what you say, they only need care who you are saying it to.

So it seems completely clear to me that the reasons for the helicopter gun ships, the missile launching drones, and the bombs falling from safe altitudes half way around the world are two-fold.

First and foremost, Iraqis and Afghans are not “consumers” tied to the credit system, and therefore there is no way of controlling them other than by armed force. And second, the broadcast of carefully selected videos of these slaughters serves to impress upon the public mind the terror that the regime, in all its majesty, can inflict upon those who are not addicted to cable TV and going into debt to buy expensive toys and expensive vacations. These slaughters serve the same purpose as was served by the Coliseum in Rome and the gladiatorial amphitheaters constructed throughout the Roman Empire and are, in the eyes of the regime, worth the trillions that the videos cost.

Given the new tools that modern technology and modern consumer behavior have bestowed upon the regime, it seems clear that they can control us without violence, and I would bet big money that they have no intention of ever blasting us wrong-thinking “consumers” with helicopter gun ships or missiles fired from drones.

Even if we were to begin funding a mass movement of men and arms, we would be picked up quietly, most likely on the road or outside a store with little or now show of force and most likely with the same solicitude that Cat Threes are greeted on the highway. After all, there is no way the regime would be stupid enough to start a panic and trigger copy cats by using our pathetically inadequate movement of funds and men to signal that an armed revolution is afoot. To do so would be to allow us to leverage their resources to our purposes.

What would lead any of us to believe that the regime has not learned the lessons of Ruby Ridge and Waco? Americans are not going to be entertained by videos of neighbors who have always left them alone being burned to death or shot to pieces by helicopter gun ships. As long as you are not a “public figure” and have no swastikas or rebel flags on the wall, the regime is unlikely to sacrifice its image by frying you or chopping you into hamburger meat in public. Unlike the helicopter gunship videos from Afghanistan which show the targets only at a distance, such a slaughter on U.S. soil would result in close up cell phone videos of the corpses all over the Internet.

Dead veterans wearing their old dog tags would be a deeply troubling propaganda disaster for the regime.

Now let us back out and look at the puzzle pieces before us from an even more distant perspective.

Each new layer of complexity designed to increase efficiency and reduce costs in our economy increases its fragility and renders it more vulnerable to black swan events. Our just-in-time delivery systems give us about five days worth of food and about ten days of gasoline. Bernanke's loss of control over long term interest rates—that QE-2 was intended to lower—could lead to a series of financial catastrophes that destabilize our society and leave our population cold and hungry.

The real danger to the regime is a military coup as a result of one or more of these catastrophes.

But a coup by the military would only capture and disable the facade of government—the elected and appointed officials in Washington. In fairness to the military, they do know that they would have to get control of the radio and TV stations, turn off the satellite feeds, and get control of the broadcasts.

But it is very unlikely that the the officer corps would have any idea how to identify and capture the real government of the U.S.—the people in New York and Los Angeles who would oppose their takeover, turn their coup into a propaganda disaster, and likely defeat them unless quickly deprived of their power—which would almost certainly require our help. We are the only ones who could identify the moles who would do everything in their power to subvert the coup and topple the military.

Once we were given access to the computers of the surveillance state, a few well designed database queries would give us a list of the real government, and all of them could have their bank, brokerage and credit cards erased or frozen, which would then immobilize them and cast them back into the lowly and dependent “consumer” status that they have so carefully crafted for us while avoiding a bloody mess and the feelings of revulsion that would turn the people against the military.

Few would have to be detained. For a coup to succeed, one must understand the levers of power that inhere in the surveillance apparatus of the state.

A far more likely scenario is a slow withering away of the regime's resources, and a gradual abandonment of functions it can no longer afford.

Secession happens slowly, by degrees.

First there are the noticeable stresses and fissures that become visible: rising unemployment, falling real incomes for our children, and government policies that deprive us of secure savings opportunities.

In this case we would be wise to stay where we are and make ourselves useful to local officials: the county sheriff and the elected state representatives, those with the power to quietly and unobtrusively reverse the policies which unfairly burden our people, as we transform ourselves from an educational charity to a welfare organization that helps our people through rough times, provides teachers and schools for the gifted (when these programs are canceled for lack of funds), organizes medical care as the insurance system collapses, and provides emergency food and shelter for those most likely to rebound and contribute. These are all activities that, through selection of recipients, provide help in ways that reverse the wildly dysgenic effects of the welfare state on the fitness of our people.

Already serious strains are showing up in state and local finances that put the local authorities at odds with the Feds. Most of the states have elected representatives who actively solicit educated, unpaid volunteers to serve as legislative analysts. Since most of the TOQ crowd have college degrees, and many have graduate degrees, we are particularly qualified to take advantage of these stresses by helping our elected state legislators.

If you have a Republican state representative, call him or her and volunteer. With every analysis you are asked to do, you prepare an estimate of the impact of the proposed legislation on Republican voters, a useful proxy for Whites capable of being salvaged. This will condition your Republican representative to actually think about the interests of their Republican voters—something which Republicans generally are not inclined to do. Of course, you never mention WN, but you should constantly remind them that a Republican must motivate the base, and that real political motivation requires not just remote benefits to a universalized “everyman”, but benefits us and not the identifiable “them” who oppose us and our interests.

In Texas, we have a part time legislature and those elected to serve in the Texas House (as opposed to the Senate) have no budget for staff beyond a lone secretary/receptionist. It will be the same in most other states. So the opportunity for meaningful activism is there. Carpe diem!

Now is also the time to declare independence from the consumer culture:

  • We cancel our cable subscriptions.
  • We stop watching professional sports.
  • We sell the big house and trade down to a smaller house (and do it early to beat the rush).
  • We cut up our credit cards, start saving money, and begin buying silver rounds for cash as insurance against a total collapse of the monetary system.
  • We boycott brand-name goods in favor of generics.

In short, we starve the beast.

The good news is that millions of Americans are canceling their cable, and millions more have stopped watching pro sports (the NBA has begun playing White basketball players even though any idiot can see that the black players do what they can to avoid passing them the ball).

We need to recognize and ride these trends. We need to pace our fellow Whites and encourage the above behaviors.

Most of all, we must be good and useful neighbors to our fellow Whites, building awareness and understanding,  always making ourselves helpful and useful.


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  1. Save your money, support local causes, and join the Republican Party? You sound like my father back in Illinois circa 1955! 😆

    • Your father had it just about right, except that all of us need to condition our fellow whites to stand up for their interests, and we need to leverage our conditioning efforts by focusing on those decentralized and dispersed centers of local power which the tribe, due to its own catastrophically low birth rates, is no longer able to police.

  2. Why am I constantly put in this awful position of choosing between my love for my people and my love for Just-In-Time inventory management strategies? In a pinch, I suppose I would choose my people, but I surely hope that our future ethnostate won’t riddle itself with excess inventories and inefficient processes. What JIT lacks in stocked inventory, it makes up for in being nimble.

    Anecdotally, WalMart outperformed the world’s most powerful military and the world’s largest emergency management agency COMBINED at delivering critical supplies to the Hurricane Katrina disaster zone. Was this in spite of its aggressive commitment to lean methodologies? Au contraire! It was because of it!

    A week is plenty of time for countless industrial workshops to be converted over to producing biodiesel, with coal gasification on its heels. And they’ll get that fuel to the station just in time. Bear in mind that a crisis would result in the private sector ditching its diversity static at the drop of a hat and turning the reins over to the finest engineers and logisticians our nation has to offer. I’m not saying the system is invincible, but the world’s most creative and efficient workers are keeping “the beast” (as you and Dale from King of the Hill call it) alive.

    • The point of the post was not to suggest that a WN government would impose inefficiencies on our corporate distribution systems, but to urge individuals to declare their independence and “secede” from the fragility in the system by accumulating reserves of things that would be needed in the event of breakdown.

      Federal attempts to compensate for the fragility of the system only encourage individuals to believe someone will take care of them, when in fact the Federal systems have only compounded the danger, as FEMA so clearly demonstrated during the Katrina .

      • I couldn’t resist going on that tangential tirade about inventory management. My apologies.

        As for the actual point of your article, I’m in general agreement. I’ve striven to preach and apply frugality, “simple living”, “travel light”, and preparedness. For Christmas gifts, I purchase things like emergency wind-up radios, automotive emergency kits, and similar items because I believe they’re solid investments in the welfare of my loved ones and because they make natural conversation starters.

        One thing I think we should bear in mind regarding mainstream political engagement is that we’re the only single faction in American politics that can sincerely and realistically offer to perpetuate many of these entitlement programs that our own elderly, disabled, and poverty-stricken folks rely on. When austerity comes to America, and it’s coming, we’re capable of occupying a unique niche within the political landscape, that of being traditional, anti-austerity, and capable of pulling it off at the same time.

        If they turn to White Nationalism, they can have their cake and eat it too, balance the budget and put a chicken in every pot. They can pull this off because White America by itself produces enough wealth to balance its budget and support its own, but fails to do so because it’s taken on the unnecessary task of supporting an array of burdensome “others” both foreign and domestic.

        This argument won’t gain much traction, now, since austerity is one of those things that people only get mobilized about when it directly affects them. But now is the time to start honing that message, staking out that niche, and burrowing into accessible GOP support positions that empower one to influence discourse and policy formulation. While it’s been prudent to ride the Tea Party bandwagon up until now, we should be prepared to hop from it before it drives off a cliff: favoring recklessly libertarian and “Redbeardian” austerity measures that will have a sharply negative impact on untold tens of millions of our own.

    • What has just in time inventory management ever done for me? All the suppliers i know say it is a big stick the large producers use to beat them over the head with and it is always accompanied by threats to get the parts more quickly and cheaply from someone who uses illegal immigrants or is located in Mexico or wherever if the supplier can’t comply.

      This is part of a broader problem we face as whites when engaging with the Republican party. Republican elites have always held white workers in some degree of contempt. They currently justify “free trade” and unlimited immigration as being necessary in order to compete in the “global” market. What they really care about is driving down labor costs in order to maximize profits.

      It was not always thus. While always importing low wage workers at least the Republicans stood for high tariffs for their first hundred years through the 1950’s. And as well they should. NO industrial nation has ever developed its manufacturing base without protective tariffs and our industrial base is disappearing without them.

      I’m all for scientific management principles in theory but those that promote mindlessly expensive consumption eg. “branding” strategies for laundry detergent (or striped toothpaste for godssake) or that relentlessly drive up the hourly work week are inimical to white family life. And you can rest assured that while we work our fingers to the bone the fat cats have no problem finding time to hit the links with their children. Becoming like the worker automatons in Fritz Lang’s Metropolis is not my idea of a white future.

      You may think I sound like a raving Marxist but I can assure you I have no aversion to hard work or engaging in time deferral gratification strategies. We just need to be aware of the powerful hold anti-worker (and hence anti-white family) ideologies have among Republican elites as we engage their party.

      There were very good reasons that whites used to belong to the Democratic Party in such large numbers. Just because the Democrats have abandoned whites does not mean the Republicans are automatically addressing those reasons.

      • Rudel,
        We’re on the same page regarding the White American worker and the GOP’s questionable record/prospects as an advocate for him. I would note that Japan both leads the world in applying lean strategies to production and in protecting its workers with both defensive trade agreements and tight immigration policies. If anything, I assert that the caste of slave laborers American corporations import lull them into taking efficiency less seriously, putting off process improvement, automation, and innovation.

  3. Mimir's Well said:

    “What could a fellow do under those circumstances? Go complain to the neighbors that all his accounts have been deleted by the government and risk getting himself committed to a mental institution?”

    I’m not sure that freezing the accounts of WN’s would be a viable option for the government, at least not until things got much, much worse. And by then it probably wouldn’t matter. If my accounts were suddenly frozen or “deleted” I would immediately go to the media with bank statements, ATM receipts, etc., to prove the existance of my account(s). There is no way the gov could keep a lid on the deletion of (potentially) thousands of accounts.

    • They may not be able to put a lid on it but they will surely put some spin on it. You would simply be labeled a “person of interest” in some right-wing terrorist plot that they were trying to prevent under auspices of the Patriot Act or some other such federal law or regulation. They have already frozen the assets of Arab-Americans that they have accused of giving material support to Middle Eastern organizations that are out of favor with the government.

      It is also against the law even as we speak, to publicize the fact that they have done so.

      • Mimir's Well said:

        It would backfire. They could spin it all they want, but like Waco and Ruby Ridge, the truth would come out. When the public sees that we are normal people with familys they would give us a major publicity event the likes we have never experienced. The internet will be their downfall.

        • “They could spin it all they want, but like Waco and Ruby Ridge, the truth would come out.”

          Oh yeah, and then what? Every podunk county sheriffs department seems to have at least one armored personnel carrier nowadays thanks to federal war on drugs funding. The police in my city regularly gun down un-armed citizens. Things have gotten worse not better since Waco as far as the use of military power by the police forces.

          The only major publicity event you are going to see if you step over the line is a headline reading: “Government seizes funds of white power conspirators in terrorist plot to blow up the state capitol!”

          • Mimir's Well said:

            ” Every podunk county sheriffs department seems to have at least one armored personnel carrier nowadays thanks to federal war on drugs funding.”

            Armored personnel carriers do not randomly run down people, no more than TVs randomly spew out crap. Someone operates them. Unlike TVs, armored personnel carrier operators probably have more in common with you (especially in Podunk, USA) and are unlikely to obey orders to run you down for your political beliefs.

            “The police in my city regularly gun down un-armed citizens.”


            “Things have gotten worse not better since Waco as far as the use of military power by the police forces.’


            “The only major publicity event you are going to see if you step over the line is a headline reading: “Government seizes funds of white power conspirators in terrorist plot to blow up the state capitol!””

            Nothing I do, nor suggested by Ygg “steps over the line.”

          • “Nothing I do, nor suggested by Ygg “steps over the line.”

            Laughable. You are the one that claimed the government couldn’t get away with seizing assets if and when they choose. You are wrong. And they will be the ones to decide where the line is.

          • Mimir's Well said:

            Guess we better run and hide. Don’t speak of this to anyone, O.K.? Gotta go…I hear a rumble down the road…just might be an armored personnel carrier…must have crossed their line at some point…be afraid…Be very afraid…

          • Haha. Be afraid as you like. I was merely agreeing with Ygg that they can do it.

          • Mimir's Well said:

            Look, of course they can do it. But they won’t do it until it has the potential to be effective. And by then it would be too late. Look at WWII revisionism. Many of its chroniclers are in jail. Has the message been stopped? No. When you resort to jailing people you will lose.

  4. Ygg’s strategy is good for the near and intermediate term, because it allows us to preserve options until we see how events are going to break. First, do no harm! :) However, the idea of armed cadres exploiting a power vacuum , moving to control a fluid political situation or using violence to trigger a political upheaval should not be dismissed lightly.

    We all need to avoid becoming didactic.

  5. AlexanderWolfe-Murray said:

    I agree (what do I know) that precious metals should be a pretty good investment over the next couple of years (fingers crossed) but I can’t imagine “they who own the actual money” allowing their dollar to become worthless. Either way, unless my penny stocks start paying a dividend I shall have to eventually sell the things to realize any (fingers crossed again) gain. It also wouldn’t surprise me if an actual shortage of dollars was on the horizon and they became valuable again. While “The gold dealers and gold bug websites estimate that only one half of one percent of the population owns physical gold or silver” it would be interesting to know what percentage of the population has dollar bills stashed away.

  6. I would sue my bank in a heartbeat I’d they allowed a deletion of my account. When the fess freeze asserts they file a forfeiture action and you get the unhappy burden of proof to get it back but I annoy ware of these possible deletions actually happening. But I still like and agree with the article.

  7. Michael O'Meara said:

    Ygg, Old boy!

    I didn’t know who you were until just recently (after figuring out how to put 2 and 2 together). Our relations would have been much different if I had known you were Yggdrasil — the one who taught me the fundamentals of WN.

    I didn’t think much of Peterson’s argument and I pretty much see things the way you do above (though through Catholic and Communist rather than middle-class Republican experience). There is, though, one little point I would add to yours.

    I no longer think secession is the question. The US in 6, at the most 12 years, will either be a collapsed state, like the former SU, or it will what 4GW calls a hollow state, like the present Mexican state. Things at that point will get wild (not MadMaxville but more like present-day Ciudad Juarez) and all bets on how things will turn out will be called off.

    There’s an important tactical question that needs addressing here.

    But the really interesting and decisive question seems to be the civilizational one. I think we might be at that stage in history (Spengler’s Winter), where the counter-civilization born in 1789 (anticipated in 1776) — this monstrosity of our own making that is now literally destroying us — this evil system associated with the American Dream — this apotheosis of the modern world — the United States — is at last starting to break down — collapsing as they say from the weight of its own perverted contradictions.

    We’re probably at the beginning (long or short?) of the interregnum.

    The main question for me now is how are we going to get through the crisis and what ‘s going to follow.

    • Michael:

      You are exactly right. This will be a slow moving train wreck, in which the birth, death and fractures of governmental entities will impact less upon the survival of our people and the processes by which they will recover control over their own evolutionary destiny (That’s evolution with a small e, for our Christian friends).

      As the regime creaks and groans under the demographic strains that it has imposed upon itself, perhaps we will have a chance to insulate our people from the culture of Hollywood, finally put a wooden stake in the heart of Jean Jacques Rousseau, and reintroduce them to a true European culture that matches their aesthetic sense and redirects the sexual selection process in such a way as to embrace standards that ensure their survival.

      And in this respect, I value very highly your writings on race and culture.

      For as you certainly understand, the problem is not so much governments and borders (although those are hardly trivial concerns), but rather cultural institutions that must be built or reconstructed so as to save our race.

      Bill Bishop – a true believer in the secular religion of human equality – has written a book titled “The Big Sort” in which he laments the fact that Americans are moving to areas and communities where they find people who agree with them on values and politics, and that these migrations splitting the country apart and are the forerunners of conflict and secession.

      The book also has some profound observations on how the modern mega-churches market themselves – through processes that would have direct application to the birth of new cultural institutions and the spread of WN.

      I would love to hear your reactions to that book – even a review – which given the importance of the subject, could be a “lead article”

      You have my email address. Let us talk about some projects, a continuing relationship with TOQ, and coordinate with Kevin MacDonald.

      We need your talents.

  8. Very inciteful and interesting, but as one political of the cold war put it, no one knew what to do after we won. Afterall victory could come quick and painless. And before TOQ waxes incessantly about shiny new elite(which I place on the shelf right next to the new and inproved laundry detergent) I would like to hear some answers to long standing issues. More to the point, I’m speaking of that very plague of our system, that something that has plagued us for centuries . . .the monitary system. How will it work?

    • There are many credible theories regarding this and I belive they all amount to a safe guarded system run by A GOY ONLY system who act on behalf of all it’s citizens. The states each ahd there won currency including the confedaeracy and was backed by many of the same types reasonable assets we have used back to the times of the roamn empire and many states minted there own coinage. This is an easy fix and the greatness of our people to build the a new white homeland free of zionist money changers, traitors and degenerates.

      • A history of money demonstrates the difficulty in it.
        Better yet, why not try to organize a monetary system, now, within the Empire; it could make for a softer landing.

  9. I have sold off the property, dropped all my credit cards and will only use a pre paid for puproses such as supporting TOQ and other organizations on our isle. I have plenty of silver and buy it ferquently as I do an aboundant amount of high caloric foods with long shelf lifes like pastas and a lot of water. I have tried not to support the RNC but to my dismay like a hurt child I go running back every time only to be shaken and sent to the corner by the angry elephant father drunk on greed again..
    The north west is fresh with meat goat farms and retired farmers with knack and know how to grow enough to feed an army…. The battle will come or we will bring it too them I know this.
    We are not tired nor restless and we are many..

    • “I have tried not to support the RNC but to my dismay like a hurt child I go running back every time only to be shaken and sent to the corner by the angry elephant father drunk on greed again.”

      It does not have to be an all or nothing proposition. Supporting the RNC doesn’t make much sense but supporting individual politicians on specific issues makes does. Even Democrats if the issue calls for it. There are still union constituencies within the Democratic Party that oppose immigration as a jobs issue.

      White Nationalism should be advanced on multiple fronts. Kill your television. Read Lenin.

  10. Rudel, what city do you live in wherein the cops are gunning down unarmed citizens, and are they colored or white or both?

    As for the cops, they are a mixed bag. I recently had a run-in with Menlo Park cops. Probably a jew noticed me showing a new gun to a friend . We were bent over the trunk. I have a bumper sticker ” America First, Not Israel” on all my cars. When from a afar a short time after the gun-show was over, I noticed the police turned up. I went over to them to explain the situation and they got rough and hand-cuffed me and placed me in a police car. When I managed to calm them down they sent for their boss. He and a couple fresh cops show up and I tell them what’s what, they release me, and we have a chat, in which I, 1, tell them that I am an ex-probation officer, pro-cop, and so on. I also give them a little talk about Israel. They are willing to talk about it.

    Their behavior was way out of line and they knew it and by the time it was over, it was Mr. Webb this and Mr. Webb that. I did not file a complaint. I need them on my side or at least more neutral as the DA’s office wants me. So…what is the point? Cultivate the cops if you can. The cops know whati’s what but they cannot talk about the niggers and the mexers.

    As fpr the potential for breakdown, I am doubtful about the scenario outlined by Ygg and Michael. As someone who has “faith” in the market, that is, that the market runs itself largely, despite the tamperings by the Fed and the Keynesians, it is resilient. For example right now the economy is trying to rev-up. Why? Because lots of money ($3 trillion per the WSJ a couple weeks ago ) of corporate cash is waiting on the sidelines. Then there is another large amount (?) that the banks are sitting on out of fear. You do not make money by sitting on the sidelines. The turtle finally sticks its head out when it feels safe. There is such a thing as pent-up demand. A couple years of squishing the air out of the system has left a sounder basis for a fresh start.

    Right now there age good signs in the economy despite the still lousy housing market. I think the Wall St. money grubbers are going to police themselves (gov’t regulators) because they know how dangerous things got in ’08 , etc. These folks may be greedy but they are not stupid.

    Then of course, we got huge fiscal crises going on, from Fed, to State, to County. There are going to be severe cuts to social programs, welfare, education, and ?. Jerry Brown is already issuing warnings of such to his shocked troops in California. The War Budget will come under the axe too. There is no alternative. Things will be straightened for sure. Immigration will remain a growing issue, When the niggers and mexers start burning the cities, the police will open fire this time. Everybody should be armed.

    Maybe I am just allergic to catatrophist thinking having been around a family for years for whom the Revolution was just around the next depression.

    The compelling example of Rome and Greece slowly wimpering into miscegenatiion and corruption….that seems pretty compelling. No bang.

    Nevertheless, I agree that things are fragile. Please forget about “peak oil”. WSJ a few years ran a few articles about how we are not running out of oil but running into it– at least 100 years worth.. Then there are oceans of natural gas and coal. Can we indeed soil our nest? Of course, but that will be a long time coming. and is not our fight. If we lose, and the planet goes into some kind of shock, the first folks to die will be those without arms or brains. Whites should be able to survive while the coloreds die like rats. Yes, the cities are vulnerable, etc. another story.

    Political crisis is coming, not economic breakdown. Social breakdown is coming, race struggle is coming…it is already here. Things fall apart, and the Center, thank god, cannot hold. Civil war will come maybe and eveybody will have enough money for guns and ammo, that is Whites,but those things should be purchased now. There are huge numbers of guns in the U.S. many many millions. And the liberals ain’t got any, they let the jews do their killing.

    But Not to sound romantic…the first thing is to maintain the political struggle with whatever can be done locally. This is practical politics. If you don’t want to get your hands dirty with practical efforts to persuade folks, you don’t have what it takes for the long haul. We do not have enough time to march thru the institutions, but we do have time maybe to start forming alliances and build trust for our vision, which after all is confirmed by everything in the news and everyday experience. All you have to do in point it out to folks. More than one person has said to me, “I have been waiting for someone to say it.” Don’t mouth it up too much…let your pitch not me a monologue. If your interlocutor is not speaking, stop until he or she says something, Otherwise, stop.


    • Joe, my personal observations re: the police over the last 40 or 50 years is that they now resort more to their guns rather than to their saps and billy clubs, which are now illegal in many jurisdictions, when dealing with perceived threats. Some of this is due to the admittance of 115 pound women into the ranks of patrol officers but most of it is part of the general trend towards the militarization of local police forces.

  11. Wns scare themselves witless. I’ll say this again and maybe mycell phone won’t botch up the spelling. Federal govt files forfeiture actions to confiscate property. They don’t delete. Show me deletion cuz I am not aware of it happening. The tough thing about forfeiture actions is the bop goes on the owner to get stuff back.

    Mad max is nowhere near us. Good idea to prepare. Good to limit dependence on things we hate. Not a good idea to wait for god or some unwon favor. If we presume to lead we must make our own luck.

  12. hyperbole is a surefire method of turning off your interlocutor. Cops are not “gunning down” folks. Your point about the futility of female cops is good. I have personal experience with female cops who go berserk.

    The cops ma;y or may not be getting generally rougher. I think I know that the cops are less rough on the nigs because of fear of job loss, etc.

    In my last bout with the coppers, one asked me if I had “something against the Jews”. Some of these guys are propagandized in that regard, but you cannot propagandize anyone who has everyday experience with nigs and mexers. A Redwood City cop told a friend of mine that a mexer will shoot you faster than a spook.

    Finally, understatement is far more effective than overstatement. This is in part due to the psychological dynamics of , 1, not being lectured to, and 2, giving someone the chance to connect the dots, and, 3, keeping visible emotional attachment to your point of view, hidden, unless addressing a friend, out of it.

  13. Yggdrasil,

    I notice my comments have been deleted, at the ‘Secession is a bad idea for whites’ post. Why?

    I responded to your comment. My comment detailed an ethno-nationalist African White Refugee secession movement, in Africa, based upon the premises of Peak Oil, and how the Post Peak Oil world would be conducive to ethno-nationlist secession, what liberals refer to as relocalisation.

    Now they have been deleted.


  14. Native American said:

    Secession happens slowly, by degrees.

    I thought this is what all secessionists believed. Covington is insane.

  15. Insane is close, but delusional might be better. Of course, his comic-book fantasies are dangerous because they appeal to the lowest common denominator. It is like light drugs as opposed to heavy drugs. Some folks just cannot handle them while others can recreationally use them more or less without lasting harm to brain or one’s life.

    Clinton for example. Of course, “lifestyle” is another matter. Weed smokers become lazy, or go into various rackets, like Clinton, the First Black President. This is true with regard to sex, shuck and jive, and miscegenation. I hope Chelsea dumps her White boyfriend and has her parents guess who is coming to dinner. Joe

  16. Michael O'Meara said:


    The liberal-modernist mindset (i.e., progressivism) of your Communist parents made them think that the workers’ paradise was just around the corner. The same mindset prevents you, like Fukuyama, from seeing the possibility — at this point, the near inevitably — of history beginning again and the present perverted system coming to an end.

    Covington is not insane or delusional — except for those liberal modernists (many of whom call themselves WN) who cannot imagine anything other the reign of quantity and the ideal of brute power.

    Covington has read Irish and German history and knows something about how national revolutions are made. The question, moreover, is not one of objective possibility, but rather subjective will. Perhaps it’s likely that American Whites are too far gone to fight for their existence. But there’s nothing crazy about those who still carry the old flame and try to ignite it in their brothers. What’s really crazy at this point in history is the conservative “realism” that can’t think outside the virtualist mindset of liberal modernism — a mindset whose fabricated realities and egalitarian fantasies are now hurtling toward the abyss.

    Joe, what you call the “lowest common denominator” is nothing of the kind — it’s something distinct to our Promethean spirit — but all the conservative and middle-class ideals you’ve embraced in reaction to your Communist parents seems to have alienated you from it.

    The comic-book fantasy is what we’re living today.

    And BTW, Chelsea’s husband is not White.

    • Native American said:

      Michael O’Meara,

      My orientation is around old stock Americans, especially in the South, and more northwest Europeans in general.

      I haven’t yet read Covington’s book, only the articles here, though perhaps I ought to. I’d figured we ought to dig in here, build cultural institutions, get involved in local politics, and await the collapse.

      Too many seem to believe the “will to be naughty” is all that’s needed. As you say too many have the “Promethean spirit”, which needs to die. A return to higher values, pious values, is needed. Nietzsche, the Cosmotheists, Attarian’s Economites, etc. they’re all soulless and must be removed for a higher, more noble society to arise – strength through spiritual purity. The magicians will merely meddle in things they don’t understand and ultimately destroy all that’s good.

      I know your comment wasn’t directed at me, but I just wanted to be clear of my position. My ideal approaches Plato’s Republic, and the fallen Atlantians must be stopped.

      • Native American said:

        Oh, I see you were recommending a Promethian spirit as alternative to consumerism. But really the two are the same. One embraces the void, creates a delusion, and produces a will from it; the other embraces the void and just puts along not caring for more than base pleasantries.

        The alternative I think is piety – men with Weaver’s guiding moral center or Evola’s worldview.

  17. Dear Michael., so did Chelsea marry a jew?

    The striking aspect of your remarks above is that history can begin again and the present system end. You seem to place me in the company of Fukiyama. I am not in his camp in the least. I think LIberal Capitalism, Liberal Politics, Liberal liberality, etc. will end. And yes I think that there can be a new beginning. However that new beginning will not be quick, like some kind of revolutionary breakthrough. This reminds me of Lenin’s ” Voluntarist” heresy of skipping the capitalist stage of history and going directly to socialism. The extreme voluntarism of Leninism, whether of the October Revolution and War Communism, or Mao’s Great Leap Forward, or Cultural Revolution….led only to mega deaths.

    Then you talk about Subjective Will as opposed to , I suppose Reality. There is a place for subjective will and that is what we are all doing, more or less. But Reality has to support it. In fact, our reality right now shows us and leads us. We are the only folks actually in contact with reality. Still, that reality imposes limits and conditions on what we can do. Remember Marx’s (I think) ‘Man makes his own history, but he does not make it just as he pleases’. Something like that.

    My remark about the lowest common denomiinator was not a reference to Covington, it was about the folks who seem to think that they can grunt and call people pussies, or whatever, and thereby advance our cause.

    I don’t see how you can say that I have embraced conservative and middle class ideals. Conservatives in this country are liberals in any historical sense. I am am a conservative revolutionary like you, but we differ on how fast things are going to change. Furthermore, “middle-class” values are not bad, if by that one means, hard work, talent, career, family, and so on. Consumerism is surely a problem, but it is only a small problem. As Marx said, human beings desire more and more of everything. and that was ok…..nothing wrong with that if coupled to the above and , of course, Nation.

    Personally, I have children and grandchildren and even now am a great granddad (from my idiot 18 year old granddaughter) and that puts a subjective feature in my brain that thinks about money, inheritance, and a future for my kids, etc. That makes me more revolutionary politically and more conservative with regard to money.

    There is nothing in it to criticize middle-class folks , most of whom are not having a great time of it. There is nothing wrong with security and money. We are racialists because we want security and a decent standard of living for our race.. We like Robert Putnam’s study because he talks about insecurity and unhappiness in diverse areas, and relative happiness in homogenous. what is wrong with being happy?

    There are overtones of ‘more revolutionary than thou’ in your words, a kind of hangover from your days as a leftie. The New Spirit will have to accomodate quotidian reality, work, personal relations, and so on. This new social reality will still be middle-class as you put it. Did the ancients put aside consumption? only when battle called, and it was not our noble northern blood Latinis and Dorians and Ionians who eschewed art, beauty, and “consumer” goods. They were not subverted (largely) by consumption, they were subverted by racial inferiors.

    You are also a statist and must be aware of the problematic nature of that. Are you going to declare that only the True Revolutionaries can join the Party, and that the Party will be Leninist, “democratic centralist” (that’s a laugh!) with no elections? Fuhrer Principle all over again?

    Now to be clear, in a revolutionary situation, there is a need for a military type state and society. However, peacetime and a return to normality is another matter. I remember the Cuban communists at a conference in Havana that I attended in 2000 (mostly to see Stalinismo-fresco before it withered away) in which the female commies argued that “civil society” was reactionary and generated capitalism. Mom and Pop operations were outlawed shortly after my trip. So the way to prevent capitalilsm from returning was to vigilantly stamp it out wherever it popped up. So much for Gramsci’s view of civil society.

    If civil society does not remain free from the State in normal peacetime, then yes LIberalism wiill have been defeated, but replaced by another System that does not allow for our genes to cook-up some great new stuff for our amazement.

    Free our Genes! Get Jews and coloreds off our necks and out of our wallets, and let us fight our own wars.

    The left never used the word Freedom….it was just bourgeois. Our race fundamentally wants freedom, and will reject any imposed Statist Dreams.

    I argue that our struggle will remain in the populist mode for some time. The current populism of tea party will not work. Next? We need to be able to step in with concrete proposals, analysis, and run for office. There will be no other way, unless the remote possibility of Breakdown happens, and if it does, we will stilll need to focus on , pardon me, hearts and minds, and not guns. Guns only mop-up after the poliitical battle.

    If guns pull off a coup, like in Russia, then civil war occurs and then totlalitarianism. The commies killed for both class and race reasons, the jews being the race killers. If the liberals start killing us and our supporters, it will be all Race…and fanatic ideology loosed upon us. LIberals will become greater killers than the commies.


    Nobody will go for Unfreedom, starting with me..

  18. Michael O'Meara said:

    Prometheanism is the inner fire that consumes, destroys, and elevates European Man. Unlike the desert’s salvation religions, its will is to ‘equal the divine’. It’s neither good nor bad, but remains that distinguishing European life force that must be ceaselessly mastered. It’s inherent to the tragic sense of life that sees existence as a hazardous, risk-filled journey, whose perils are integral to the unfolding of our historical destiny.

    Piety, which isn’t bad in itself, is too close to the dominant and senile spirit of liberalism’s ‘spirit of indifference’.

  19. Michael O'Meara said:


    After Christmas dinner and a few glasses of Jameson, I am especially happy to see that you threw off that ‘conservative’ accusation I made. I know you to be what the Irish call a ‘solid man’ — someone who’ll undoubtedly be there when we have to get ourselves ready. Several of your recent comments — here and elsewhere — suggested, however, that you were developing certain ‘Menshevik’ deviations — though I’m glad to learn that this is not actually the case.

    To continue the discussion, let me agree with you that every revolutionary breakthrough has to be prepared before hand — politically and metapolitically. Nevertheless the political game is all about Lenin’s voluntarism. Subjective Will isn’t the opposite of objective reality — rather it’s that part of reality that the objectivists can’t see — because they’re objectivists, they’ve dismissed all the qualitative facets of life (like race and culture) that make life life meaningful. They’re middle class — they see the world in terms of materialism and consumerism — and though materialism and consumerism are a necessary part of life and though every modern society depends on the health of its middle class, the middle class — along with its materialism, consumerism, and civil society — are ‘bad’ in the present context — because they reflect the prevailing bourgeois ethos of our liberal society — with all the egalitarian, individualistic, and universalistic crap that inescapably goes along with it.

    In a word: Middle class standards and expectations (born of liberal modernity) are too intimately embedded in the existing social system not to be bad.

    We — in the White Republic — want a hard-working, virtuous middle class that doesn’t need a nanny state to take care of it. But in itself the middle class is nothing — except a reservoir of our people’s genetic heritage — IF it isn’t led by a natural aristocracy (which the egalitarian tenets of the American Dream oppose) and if it isn’t spiritually nourished by a cultural class able to rise above the levelling materialism.

    Our middle class — and I too support what can be called nationalist-populist politics — is presently leaderless — and it shows. Its healthy instinctual reactions to the present decaying regime is thus expressed in caricatures — that peculiar Tea Party mix of football fever and Hollywood history — that invariably gets things wrong.

    It’s our job — the job of the nationalist vanguard — to give our people the ideas and values that will help it see beyond the existing middle-class standards — to revive in them something of their European roots and affirm their distinct destiny as White men.

    Said differently: By itself, the middle class may discover Marx (who needs to be read); with our help, perhaps, it’ll discover Nietzsche, the real revolutionary — who sought a transvaluation of all values.

  20. Dear Sir

    Low birth rates of the ‘TRIBE’ will, and is, leading to their loss of power and control.

    Media Moguls are on their collective death bed. With swollen debt as their older readers [and they] die off and the young surf the web.

    As the low intensity conflict under way in the Southwest and inner cities
    expands, and the welfare state implodes, a racial civil war may well begin.

    The TRIBE will crack down but it may well be fatal to them.

    WHITE warriors in uniform, who control powerful weapons, may very well decide to act in THEIR and OUR interests..Targeting Tribal power and living centers in precision strikes..

    Luckily, when the old Soviet Union broke up, powerful weapons were kept leashed..

    Tribal kontrollers here in America may not be so lucky.

    English America has had a blackout of other versions of history that conflict with their own…English and ‘English American’ history.

    Check out the IRISH BRIGADES – FONTENOY to get the flavor of the
    most potent warriors in the past 500 years of world history..Saxe, the greatest Marshall in the history of France, considered the Irish Brigades his best warriors. Irish Brigades fought for France, Austria and Spain throughout the years leading up to the defeat of Napoleon. They were known and feared all across Europe and the world.. England deliberately kept this history quiet.

    Several hundred Irish soldiers deserted the US and joined Mexico during the 1845 – 1847 conflict.. San Patricios Battalion was the name of their squadron. Mexico was eventually defeated but the Irish raised hell with the Americans. Santa Anna said if he had a few hundred more Irish he could have won the war.

    American military leaders kept a blackout on this information and only after two Senators forced them to tell what happened did they fess up.

    Moral of this story?? Loads of Irish wear a US military uniform. When they go to war they seem to believe in TOTAL war. As many will not be loyal to the TRIBE when this nation breaks down the outcome might be a bit different than what took place in the old Soviet Union.


    • Michael O'Meara said:


      Wonderfully said.

      When our people feel their backs against the wall, when they see that they must fight back to live, they become the Irish Brigades, the force that does what needs to be done when all else has failed.

      We Irish have been in the Brigades for more than a thousand years. But we await the day when the Saxons, Slavs, and Latins join our ranks — in struggle for the Great Borean Empire of the North.

      • Sir

        Sweden hired a number of Irish companies to fight for them. However,
        most deserted to Catholic Poland. Lutheran Sweden was forced to put the rest to the sword.

        Some of the Irish supported the royals [they owed allegiance to the king] during the French revolution others supported the revolution. THEY THINK FOR THEMSELVES

        Peter De Lacy of Limerick, Ireland, rose through the ranks under Peter the Great, in Russia. He ended up as Field Marshall. He defeated the Ottoman Turks, Poles and Sweden for Russia.

        Three greatest Marshall’s in Austrian history were Irish.

        The Scot Douglas MacArthur wanted to drop 30 atomic bombs on China. Truman and his kontrollers nixed it..

        Part Irish Che Guevara wanted full control of the nukes during the Cuban missile crisis. Russians would not give him control. Word is he would have pulled the trigger.

        A surprise may await the Plutocracy as civil strife unfolds in America.

        When power centers are blown up here do not be surprised if the source is the Irish Brigades in US military uniform.

        Part Irish myself and I have figured out who kontrols this country and their agenda. I owe no loyalty to them. Will be plenty more like you and I in uniform.


        • Michael O'Meara said:

          I think it was Weber in Economy and Society who wrote that ‘with race theories you prove and disprove anything you want’.

          • M

            All witnessed 911.. when Jihadi warriors slammed into
            the towers..

            We witnessed the Fort Hood massacre. What will stop
            Jihadi warriors from getting in control of powerful weapons as
            they have taken up residence in the west and join various military’s.

            Will we see a surprise strike against Anglo-American power centers?
            Coming from German, French, English or American weapon systems??

            I wrote on another web site immediately after 911 that Jihadi warriors would eventually nuke Washington and NY. Warren Buffet came on board,
            duplicating my comments, a few months later.

            Stay tuned.

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