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TOQ Online Commenting Guidelines
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1. All comments on TOQ Online are moderated. All of them. So do not expect your comment to appear immediately. And when it does not appear immediately, please do not fire off an angry email denouncing me for censoring you.
2. I delete — “censor,” if you like — about 25% of comments for reasons outlined below. I even delete the comments of TOQ authors and veteran commentators if I think they are off-topic or otherwise objectionable. Thus if I delete your comment, this does not imply that I find you objectionable as a person or that you should not try again.
3. Give me your email address, in case I need to contact you. Your email address will not be publicly displayed. Henceforth, I will not post any comments that have obviously fake email addresses attached to them, no matter how good they are.
4. Make your comments substantive. Do not send me one-liners like “Awesome dude!” If you think that something is, like, totally awesome, give us some reasons why you think so. If you can’t, then what makes you think others are interested in your opinion?
5. Proofread your comments. I do not like to publish comments with missing capital letters, misspelled words, bad grammar, diction errors, etc. I will correct these if I think a comment is substantive enough, but if your comment lacks substance and is badly written, I will delete it because I just don’t have time to fix everything that comes my way.
6. Don’t use emoticons, LOLs, and the like. Competent writers do not need smiley faces to communicate irony or humor.
7. Don’t use vulgar language, crude slurs, and other low-class and low-brow forms of expression. We are trying to raise the status of being race wise and Jew wise. I delete all comments inconsistent with that aim.
8. Don’t make personal attacks on our authors or other White Nationalist figures. I am all for well-reasoned and well-mannered criticism and debate, but I draw a line at ad hominem attacks. It is fine to poke fun at the enemy, but even then it should not at the expense of substance.
9. Don’t attack the white race as a whole or white racial subgroups and nations.
10. Trolls get the hammer. Don’t post here if you want to spread disinformation, discord, and division. Don’t post here if you just want to draw attention to yourself. Don’t post here if you just want to vent. There are plenty of other sites on the internet for that.
Thank you for reading TOQ Online and sharing your thoughtful and constructive comments.
Greg Johnson
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Greg Johnson
Greg Johnson, Ph.D., is the Editor-in-Chief of Counter-Currents Publishing, Ltd. He can be reached at editor@counter-currents.com.
Dr. Johnson,
I agree with your moderating policies as outlined here. A significant problem with other forums is the poor signal:noise ratio in the comments threads, which both detracts from the original post and inhibits productive further discussion of that post.
To the extent that I myself contributed to this problem by the use of intemperate language, I regret, and the standards set here will be useful guidelines for maintaining the discourse at an informative level.
Ted,
As you surely have noticed, I have softened the edges of some of your comments in the past, because I think that doing so makes it more likely that they will influence readers. But I consider you to be one of our very best writers. So you are an excellent illustration of the point that I made above, namely, that readers should not be discouraged if I do not post a comment, or a comment in full.
One reason that I want people to give me real email addresses from now on is so that I can contact them about editing or deleting a comment.
Michael Bell’s article on “game” is unsuitable for this site in that it evinces the ages-old attitude toward women that made feminism so attractive to large numbers of decent, thinking women. So Bell’s advice is what passes for the male elders coaching & mentoring their young’uns? Judas Fkg Priest…
“Get laid!” is whose idea of great writing? The article is just a less academic-sounding version of Roger Devlin’s uncontrollably wordy “boo-hoo-hoo, I can’t get anyone to do it with me so they must be spoiled bitches” article in The Occidental Quarterly a couple of years back. Do you truly think that the immature women Bell is talking about (and the whole white race down the line) can ultimately be “saved” by the techniques normally employed by our pigmented brethren? (See next para.)
I am middle aged. When I was young (late teens, twenties) black men would approach us office girls by insulting us about our hair or clothing or something else. 35 years later and I see the same approach recommended to confused racialist white men! Will wonders never cease.
Being “nice” to women doesn’t make a man a doormat, anymore than women being nice to a man makes her a doormat. Niceness goes without saying; if the one you are polite & decent to doesn’t deserve it, move on. I hope that the young men who glom onto Bell’s ravings eventually come to see them as just the swing of the pendulum.
Men without women go to seed, devoting themselves to their massive record collections yet unable even to keep their premises clean or cook a meal. And, yes, look into their refrigerators and you’ll probably see one rotting onion in a plastic bag.
I hope you find my comments constructive & thoughtful, since I consider them to be so.
Bell’s article was a mistake.
Stronza,
Your comments are borderline, because you attack Dr. Devlin personally, but I will let it pass since I can use it as an illustration. Besides, the rest is food for thought and discussion. Thanks.
Like, awesome article, bruz! (Err… You don’t have to publish this line…).
I appreciate your attention to detail when editing my comments. I’ve come to rely on you putting my extended quotes into proper form.
Perhaps I should experiment with the cite and quote commands below; just don’t want to look the fool when I use the wrong one!
Having said that I edit my comments here better than some essays I hand in at uni, which you may have seen. I guess I respect the authors, commentators and readers here more than I do the liberal-Marxist tertiary education System/Visa Factory.
If I recall correctly I’ve only had one comment not approved; it didn’t add much to the thread. Though, I’ve seen two posts of mine with spelling errors: I wrote their instead of they’re and had a ‘c’ where a ‘v’ should have gone in Moeller van den Bruck. Perhaps a future soft drink in the coming ethnostate, no?
People send hate mail for not having their comments published instantaneously? Lighten up folks, I’m still waiting for my TOQ print edition to make its way to my semi-rural suburb (not that I live in that part, my area of the Hills hasn’t been semi-rural since the 80s thank you very much!) from its perilous journey from the big smoke of Atlanta!
It is easy indeed to be facetious without resorting to emoticons!
Morgan,
I only have time to give comments a once-over, so I am sure that some errors slip through. You are one of my favorite commentators, and a real prodigy. I wish I were as enlightened as you are when I was an undergraduate student. It would have saved me more than a decade of wandering in error.
Dear Greg. I was most certainly not attacking Mr. Devlin personally. No way. I did not say that he was talking about his own personal situation as regards stupid women; I have no way of knowing what his situation is. But he expressed much bitterness and resentment on behalf of men who can’t get a woman, implying that these males are approaching perfection in their decency in the face of feckless, immature females who can’t appreciate them! Those supposedly good men should cut their losses and move on. There are lots of fish in the ocean and someone will come along who will love and appreciate them. It is doable but it requires wisdom, not perfection, and certainly not the teenage bad-boy behaviour recommended by writer Bell.
Men (and women) wanting a happy and mature relationship must remember: “Good judgment comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgment.”
You’re welcome.
I think Greg’s moderating standards are eminently reasonable.
We’ve recently added more Admins at Occidental Dissent, which should allow us to apply similarly stringent standards there. Far too often, intelligent and substantive comments are drowned out by page after page of detritus. The people who post such garbage do it for exactly that reason, and I have no tolerance for it/them.
Greg has only altered my comments here once or twice, and I would categorise those instances as “editing” rather than “censorship” because he made them clearer and more focused; I was thankful that he took the time to clean up my posts.
Thank you for everything you do, Greg. You’re truly one of a kind and a man I’m proud to call a friend and comrade.
Since others have brought it up, Devlin’s article regarding women prompted me, at the time, to look for other things he’d written. I discovered his 2008 article in The Last Ditch, which was even more insulting than the TOO article a year later. I also found a few articles about Alexandre Kojeve, the subject of Devlin’s book, three of which I saved. There may be no connection, but Kojeve appears to be most well-known for his Master-Slave concept; I was interested to see that he gets cited in feminist books.
The fact is that others have expressed similar attitudes here; Devlin has only been the most obvious. On a different note, I greatly appreciated his two Solzhenitsyn reviews, which I saved and forwarded.
I usually keep email addresses for relatively short intervals, e.g. less than a year.
I also frequently use email addresses to comment without bothering to check my email for weeks at a time.
If you do not often contact commenters, I suppose I can safely ignore my email, and just let dropped comments be forgotten. If you have serious issues and want commenters to be serious and punctual about checking email, I would appreciate clarification.
John Walters,
If I am going to contact someone it will be immediately after he sends his comment. If you post a comment, and it does not appear after a day or so, check your email. There might be something there from me.
Kojève is best known for the “universal and homogeneous state.” The Master-Slave dialectic is Hegel; to whom Kojève is heavily indebted.
Kojève is a thinker that we should study and respect. He is the very best of the enemy. Luckily for us, our thinkers best him. But that doesn’t mean much in the interregnum as it is his thought that is regnant and which the vast majority of our people find preferable for they are Last Men.
Kojève posited his “universal and homogeneous state” to be the Warrior-Worker State. Though as the Jew Leo Strauss wrote to him this is the ultimate nihilism for in Kojève’s Warrior-Worker State there is neither war nor work. In Kojève’s words, his State is the end of the Political.
I think all these comments have been wise ones, especially the ones that conflicted.
Without responding to any (except to say that I hope we hear from comrade Stronza again), let me just mention that on several occasions Greg has tempered my own comments and that I always later felt it was for the best because it kept the discussion at the level of intellectual exchange rather than at that tiresome adolescent level of ad hominem offense.
I agree 100% with these guidelines. I wish other websites would moderate in this way too. Mr. Omeara brings up the perennial ad hominem scourge which infects a large percentage of the entire world of internet commentary. I recently re-joined MENSA to find people to talk to intelligently about some of the issues that are covered here. I politely brought up Dr. Macdonald’s work in a forum on immigration and the first response I received was a playground-esque name-calling session about what kind of person I was… Wow. I expected more.
However it does illustrate how political-correctness works. It is not well-reasoned. It is mindless, lazy, emotional, insecure, fear-filled, and socially-mediated. Even a MENSA member fully capable of reason sunk to the level of fear and conditioning rather than calm reason. Socially-mediated political-correctness and conditioning is powerful stuff.
I love well-reasoned criticism because I genuinely do not like to be wrong — not because of ego, or social approval, but because truth is my main overriding motive. I think many of us are here because we are thoughtful people who are genuinely concerned about truth. If you are, prepare to be assailed by those who do not have truth as their primary motive. Everything moral, all good decisions, and the future itself, depend on truth. Without freedom of speech, and people willing to give their lives for truth, life is not worth the DNA it is printed on. Ad hominems, and all other logical fallacies have no place here.
With regard to Steven’s Mensa experience, he doesn’t say whether this is an email or a web forum; maybe it doesn’t matter. In addition to private (including high IQ) lists, I’ve had several experiences with public mainstream list infiltration, solo or with one or a few others. Given my formidable treasury of select, relevant articles, the ease with which ongoing perfect opportunities to submit them in response to postings from mainstreamers presented themselves could be exhilarating.
I have found that in all of the groupings, the responses to anything outside of prevailing accepted ideology is knee-jerk; level of intelligence appears to make no difference in people’s ability or willingness to consider facts or opinions that are unpopular or outside the pale. The passion with which they voice their objection is significant. The reasonableness of the material you present also makes no difference. What I’ve found is that the crime they “get you” on is that of obsession. Presumably, if you were to post regularly on a wide variety of topics, your occasional slips into objectionable territory would be tolerated. Who has time for that? Or interest?
On almost every list I’ve ever been on, regardless of its focus, there has at some point appeared a “monitor” who has carried out the role of sheepdog. On one British discussion list, the “monitor” actually left the list in response to my posts, with every one of the active posters following her, despite my posts consisting of only reasonable, reliable, relevant articles, and despite their being no open hostility or argument.
I always include URLs with my submissions and select the item with the URL in mind. Knowing that I was drawn into the place where I am by very particular postings that shocked me into attention–one of the first was a review of James Bacque’s Crimes and Mercies, which revealed to me my ignorance–I believe that some of the information we all send around does get “received,” even if not acknowledged, even if rebelled against.
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